Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


P.M. Marc - Jan 13, 2015 8:34:26 am PST #5731 of 6786
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Will do.


P.M. Marc - Jan 13, 2015 8:38:24 am PST #5732 of 6786
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

"ita's thread" and done


DavidS - Jan 15, 2015 12:43:28 pm PST #5733 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So I made this post back in 2002.

DavidS "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Sep 21, 2002 11:35:27 am PDT

Maybe we should discuss who's got keys to the engine room to keep this ship afloat.


amych - Jan 15, 2015 12:56:58 pm PST #5734 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Maybe we should discuss who's got keys to the engine room to keep this ship afloat.

I was thinking about this just today -- mostly from the code side, as it seems like the administrative side of things (domain/hosting renewals and such) is pretty well handled. But the code should live somewhere that isn't just in the dreamhost account and ita's personal machines, and several people should have access to that. Even if we don't plan any feature changes, in case of security needs, upgrades, that kind of thing.


sj - Jan 15, 2015 12:58:24 pm PST #5735 of 6786
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I was wondering about this too.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 15, 2015 1:02:36 pm PST #5736 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

So-

a) are there people who have the knowledge to do so?

b) Are those people able to do that

c) Can we get the code from the dreamhost account to do so, or do we need to somehow get that from ita's personal machines.


amych - Jan 15, 2015 1:03:49 pm PST #5737 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

(And for all I know, this could already be covered -- I haven't really been involved in technical adminnage. And If so, ignore me! But if not, I'm happy to help out. I have no photos to post, but I at least know how to set up code repos and such.)

edit because xpost:

a) are there people who have the knowledge to do so?

Yep. I php-wrangle all day, and I'm volunteering, whether it's to help with setting up something new or helping out with current duties if things are already secured. We already have a few folks (JonB and Scola, afaik) who have keys to the server and know way more than I do about what's currently set up; I want to help as needed but not step on toes.

b) Are those people able to do that

I can at least help out when things are broken.

c) Can we get the code from the dreamhost account to do so, or do we need to somehow get that from ita's personal machines.

It all exists on dreamhost; I don't know anything about where else it is, hence my wondering aloud.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 15, 2015 1:05:42 pm PST #5738 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

(I can be ignored too. I feel like organizing things in bureaucracy is a thing I can contribute, if needed.)


Tom Scola - Jan 15, 2015 1:07:43 pm PST #5739 of 6786
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

The code hasn't changed significantly in a long time. The most recent changes were tweaks to get the site working when we switched providers in 2013. I guess we could throw it up on github or something. How private can you make github repositories?


DavidS - Jan 15, 2015 1:10:22 pm PST #5740 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So a little roll call for the code monkeys (which I say with great deference): Scola, DXM, Jon B., shrift, Typo, Matt H., Gud, Mr. Burrell et al.

Do you have access to the code? Can you fix it if it goes awry?