This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Kat - Aug 01, 2007 8:50:08 am PDT #536 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But to me there doesn't seem to be any more inclination to talk television than Harry Potter or theremins or fanfiction.

If that were true, then there would not be a push to have multiple TV threads.


msbelle - Aug 01, 2007 8:50:48 am PDT #537 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am willing to go offline with a few other folk to form the poll questions (FOR A GENERAL BOARD USAGE POLL - NO GD ?S ON TV THREADS YET) from what has been suggested if such people will volunteer.

I would be available to IM/skype with folk after 8 or 9 pm ET.


brenda m - Aug 01, 2007 8:51:35 am PDT #538 of 6786
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Well, we have numbers from votes we've taken. Can we look and that and at least get a range of the number of people who are voting, even no pref, on everything? I'd be happy to go back and tally the numbers but I can't do it until tonight.

That gives us something, anyway.

Other thoughts - we used to be able to run scripts to list frequent posters in the various threads. I think ita used to do it, but I don't know if other stompies can. Maybe we can pull the numbers and someone (again, I'm happy to do some of the heavy lifting) can throw them in excel and actually find out some of this stuff. It won't pick up threads someone reads but doesn't post, but we do have some information available if we can figure out the best way to compile it.


esse - Aug 01, 2007 8:53:27 am PDT #539 of 6786
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

If that were true, then there would not be a push to have multiple TV threads.

I disagree. Mostly because I think the wish for multiple television threads stems for accessibility, not more talking for the sake of more talking.


askye - Aug 01, 2007 8:56:47 am PDT #540 of 6786
Thrive to spite them

msbelle I'll volutneer.


Kat - Aug 01, 2007 8:59:02 am PDT #541 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Mostly because I think the wish for multiple television threads stems for accessibility, not more talking for the sake of more talking.

I'm confused. Because this seems to say that plethora of TV threads are about allowing smaller and smaller discussions to take place... places where there isn't more talking? So the threads become increasingly less inclusive and more select because it isn't about creating a place where there "is more talking" but just a thread where X people want to talk?

Actually, nevermind. It doesn't actually matter.

I am still thinking that we need to eliminate no preference in voting.

I'm not sure how the poll will work to actually compile the info everyone desires, since it seems we all want different info. But I suspect that I'm like whomever posted upthread about wanting to know where my posting habits are in relation to others... sort of trying to figure out what is normative behavior.


amych - Aug 01, 2007 9:01:08 am PDT #542 of 6786
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I am still thinking that we need to eliminate no preference in voting.

This. I have a hundred different responses going in my head to a lot of this discussion, and no time to put them in order for the next few days, and I hate that, but this one? Actual and real and getting stronger.


NoiseDesign - Aug 01, 2007 9:02:31 am PDT #543 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

Interesting point. Do you have an alternate suggestion? I'm really starting to think we need to eliminate No Preference voting, but if the elimination causes another problem, it's not a great solution.

I agree with the dislike of No Preference in most options. I think the quorom needs to stand. Part of the reason for having a quorum is to make sure that an issue has enough interested parties, on either side of the issue. If it can't generate that support then it should either get dropped, or the proposer needs to go back to the drawing board to re-work it in such a way as to generate the needed support.


Jesse - Aug 01, 2007 9:03:24 am PDT #544 of 6786
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think the No Preference thing was a fine idea at the time, but now we know that enough people are willing to express a preference in most cases. At least as we've defined "enough."


Sophia Brooks - Aug 01, 2007 9:08:32 am PDT #545 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I agree with Jesse. Except for the weird part where voting no can lead to a vote passing. That is

Yes- 40 No- 1 would not pass but

Yes -40 No- 2 would.