msbelle I'll volutneer.

Mostly because I think the wish for multiple television threads stems for accessibility, not more talking for the sake of more talking.

I'm confused. Because this seems to say that plethora of TV threads are about allowing smaller and smaller discussions to take place... places where there isn't more talking? So the threads become increasingly less inclusive and more select because it isn't about creating a place where there "is more talking" but just a thread where X people want to talk?

Actually, nevermind. It doesn't actually matter.

I am still thinking that we need to eliminate no preference in voting.

I'm not sure how the poll will work to actually compile the info everyone desires, since it seems we all want different info. But I suspect that I'm like whomever posted upthread about wanting to know where my posting habits are in relation to others... sort of trying to figure out what is normative behavior.

I am still thinking that we need to eliminate no preference in voting.

This. I have a hundred different responses going in my head to a lot of this discussion, and no time to put them in order for the next few days, and I hate that, but this one? Actual and real and getting stronger.

Interesting point. Do you have an alternate suggestion? I'm really starting to think we need to eliminate No Preference voting, but if the elimination causes another problem, it's not a great solution.

I agree with the dislike of No Preference in most options. I think the quorom needs to stand. Part of the reason for having a quorum is to make sure that an issue has enough interested parties, on either side of the issue. If it can't generate that support then it should either get dropped, or the proposer needs to go back to the drawing board to re-work it in such a way as to generate the needed support.

I think the No Preference thing was a fine idea at the time, but now we know that enough people are willing to express a preference in most cases. At least as we've defined "enough."

I agree with Jesse. Except for the weird part where voting no can lead to a vote passing. That is

Yes- 40 No- 1 would not pass but

Yes -40 No- 2 would.

If that were true, then there would not be a push to have multiple TV threads.

I think there's a feeling of (and I'm not using this like it's a dirty word) entitlement for TV threads that you'll never get for, say, baseball. Now, you might get a baseball thread because other people want to shoo baseball away from where they are, but you're never going to think it's about what we are.

I know people keep calling us a TV board. I think we aren't, really. We grew up around two specific shows, branched out almost effortlessly to follow the work of two specific guys.

It doesn't generalise. It won't generalise. You can add all the Lost/SPN/whatever threads you want, plus quotables and Canadian and NAFDA, but it's not going to be the same.

For me it's different enough that it's just coincidence that Veronica Mars is on TV too.

Was it ever confirmed that NP helped something pass that wouldn't have otherwise? I went looking for it up thread, but I think it might be in Bureau 3, which I cannot find.

Bureau 3 is in the Closed Threads folder.

Beverly "Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job" Aug 1, 2007 9:43:17 am PDT

Thanks Beverly. I acknowledge that I may have read your reference too negatively. Thank you for confirming this.