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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Pix - Nov 02, 2010 3:03:16 pm PDT #4802 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Perhaps an announcement was forgotten, but if you read the post Jon linked to regarding the vote, it wasn't part of the vote on the discussion and voting.

I know Pix put a lot of energy into herding the cats last year. I appreciate her actions and those of others who make the F2F happen. I'd rather not have a kerfuffle over her attempts this year to streamline the process. As Perkins says, I'd rather see this energy go towards actually planning the F2F.

Thank you. And yes, this please. Seriously, my purpose was to put a system in place to ensure that we get a F2F vote early enough to ensure more people have time to save/plan to come. I see no reason why we can't do it unofficially this year. As I said, I will re-propose in six months for future gatherings. Also, I didn't realize that it was my job to post in Press (I thought that was part of the Stompy process), so that's my bad. No harm, no foul. Truly. No reason we can't move forward as far as I'm concerned.

The proposal, as well-meaning as it was, was toothless. There is absolutely nothing we'd be doing differently had it gotten enough votes, other than pointing to it and saying "hey, we ought to get moving on choosing a location and dates!" So let's do that.

(I hope Pix doesn't take this as a criticism. I was for the proposal; sometimes cats need a little shove to get herded)

I'm not offended, but I don't see it as toothless. I believe that putting an official timeline and system in place will have a measurable impact on the viability and attendance of future F2Fs. That's why I proposed it.

We had a vote, it failed -- and it was a vote that doesn't matter in the slightest* because it was a vote for something that couldn't happen this year.

Actually, I had stipulated that we use November this month, so it would have made that official instead of hand-wavey. But again, not worth keruffling about, especially since I'm the one who was supposed to post in Press and failed to do so.


Jon B. - Nov 02, 2010 4:45:27 pm PDT #4803 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm not offended, but I don't see it as toothless. I believe that putting an official timeline and system in place will have a measurable impact on the viability and attendance of future F2Fs. That's why I proposed it.

By toothless, I meant that there was nothing forcing Buffistas to follow the proposed timeline. But I totally agree that having the timeline in place will help.


WindSparrow - Nov 02, 2010 6:49:40 pm PDT #4804 of 6786
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I know this sort of thing has been said before, but I adore you all. I adore you individually, and collectively. I say this specifically here and now, because in 99% of other communities on the internet and in meatspace, this discussion would have long since ceased to be discussion, shot right through kerfuffle territory, and have set up camp deep in the Land of Bitter Recriminations, in its capitol, Schism City.

Maybe I'm a little sensitive to this due to personal events of the past week, but I'm not sorry to be saying this.


smonster - Nov 22, 2010 5:47:57 pm PST #4805 of 6786
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Hiya! When do we normally open Goodbye and Good Riddance? I got my first Secret Santa gift and want to squee!


SuziQ - Nov 23, 2010 6:09:55 am PST #4806 of 6786
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Goodbye and Good Riddance 2010 - Don't let the door hit ya...


SuziQ - Nov 30, 2010 8:08:55 pm PST #4807 of 6786
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I looked back and it seems Dec 1st is opening day for Goodbye and Good Riddance. Like smonster, I got a goodie and want to thank my Secret Santa.


msbelle - Dec 01, 2010 5:23:13 am PST #4808 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So, can we like open it?


Sue - Dec 01, 2010 6:07:40 am PST #4809 of 6786
hip deep in pie

It's up...I just stole the first post:

"Goodbye and Good Riddance 2010: Don't Let the Door Hit Ya..."


Sue - Dec 01, 2010 6:09:20 am PST #4810 of 6786
hip deep in pie

I think I may have broke it...my Message Centre is still reading one new message after many viewings of my message.

ETA: I am why we can't have nice things.


Stephanie - Dec 11, 2010 9:05:45 am PST #4811 of 6786
Trust my rage

I'm trying to reduce my identifiability on the internet for work reasons. Could someone change me back to Nonian?