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Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura
Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina
Here's what's really simple--if you want to effect that F2F behaviour, DO IT. It only happens once a year, and there's plenty of time to propose it again for next year.
If you want to weaken or eliminate the quorum, that's a whole different thing. But there is absolutely
nothing
in the way of taking Pix's suggestion, and I don't know why people are disappointed if 42+ people actually want to do it--42+ people do it!
But if you're going to say "If we don't get quorum let's keep going until we get quorum" let's just step up and get rid of the damned quorum. Because there's no point working around it
and
keeping it.
I think that this is a bad idea. Although, this may not be the case in this instance, I think that sometimes proposals don't get the votes because people don't think that the issue needs to be ruled on or they are neutral on the issue. Forcing a vote changes that dynamic.
Get 4 seconds, discuss. Vote, then if it passes, apply to previous vote.
Wait. You're saying if a vote doesn't get a quorum, the proposer has to request a voting extension, and that request has to receive 4 seconds and then go through the discussion period and then go to a vote?
I don't like it, because it's too much like putting the issue to a second vote right away instead of waiting the appropriate time period.
Also because it's just a layer of complication that I think is unnecessary to our voting process, which has worked very well for 7 years, with the exception of the F2F vote.
Honestly? It ain't broke. It don't need fixing. Not on the basis of one vote in 7 years that didn't get a quorum. I think all the other votes that DID reach a quorum are precedent and proof that the system works.
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And what ita and Vortex said.
I don't see how anything is harmed by saying this vote did not reach quorum and so didn't pass. It was about pimping for the F2F in October, right? And it's practically November already. Why not let the pimping this year start in Nov and put it to a vote again later if we still want to move the pimping to Oct?
I'm with Burrell.
I hope by saying this, I did not inadvertently create a circumstance that would require a 3rd and 4th, a discussion and possible vote.
I think that sometimes proposals don't get the votes because people don't think that the issue needs to be ruled on or they are neutral on the issue. Forcing a vote changes that dynamic.
If I had to guess, this vote didn't reach a quorum because not many more than 25 people go to F2Fs these days, and the vote really only affects the "pimps" (I think I'll call them pitchers instead). We don't need to change our quorum rules because of that.
And, honestly, it's a low-risk vote. It's not changing a proscribed behaviour. We'll be just fine.
I don't see any reason to change to the current quorum system.
Great, this does not seem to be an issue. Just wanted to clarify to Steph one point.
Wait. You're saying if a vote doesn't get a quorum, the proposer has to request a voting extension, and that request has to receive 4 seconds and then go through the discussion period and then go to a vote?
No, my suggestion was to put to a one-time vote whether a requester can voluntarily extend a voting period by 3 days to gain a quorum. If it passed, that would be a permanent amendment to the voting procedures and would not have to be voted on again.
Again, no need to consider. It appears the issue is a non-ish one.
