If the book club thread opens now with spoilers allowed that has to me megaMEGAmega noted. And I still think the risk of accidental spoilage is too high.

Yeppers. I mean, I didn't realize we were talking about opening the book club thread early with the intent of allowing spoilers until just now; who else might not be aware of the full context?

I guess, most of the people I've seen who know "spoilers" have actually read excerpts from the book. Which is -- not spoilers? I mean, they just read the book early. (Most of them, apparently, via meticulously photographed and posted pages.)

If the thread's to open for HP discussion, I agree it should go straight to HP discussion. I just -- thought that HP discussion has, in effect, already started.

(I should admit I don't have a dog in this hunt, so, if other people feel strongly about waiting till Friday, I don't mind.)

Which is -- not spoilers?

The details I had would be spoilers if I'd gotten to watch tonight's episode of whatever before it was aired and you saw it--what's different about the book?

And where has the HP discussion started?

Several personal LJs; fandom_lounge has a designated discussion post. It's avoidable, for now, but I vaguely figured that if the New York Times is writing about leaked text, then the horses were in the process of leaving the barn.

And, were the Atlantic Canadians called spoily, seeing Angel episodes a day before hoi polloi? I thought they were just called "frighteningly clairvoyant" or possibly "awesomely gifted" and given their own discussion space.

I guess, most of the people I've seen who know "spoilers" have actually read excerpts from the book. Which is -- not spoilers? I mean, they just read the book early. (Most of them, apparently, via meticulously photographed and posted pages.)

I...what? How is that not spoilers? The book is not out yet. Things that happen in it are, in fact, spoilers to most people.

And where has the HP discussion started?

Outside of the board, on livejournal like whoa.

There's a link on the LJ portal to a spoiler discussion community.

And, were the Atlantic Canadians called spoily

I think we're getting bogged down in semantics. Let's call them shmoilers. Whatever you want to call them, they are something that people coming into the bookclub thread might not want to see. I didn't realize that shmoilers would be discussed in this consensed thread, and apparently others didn't either. So, like ita said, we better make damn sure that's clear.

Thinking some more, why not use the spoilers thread until Friday night, and then open up the Bookclub then?

Well, I don't know whether TV spoilerwhores and HP spoilerwhores completely overlap (or are inclusive of one another). Where's the Venn diagram?