I'm going to see to Wesley, see if he's still whimpering.

Giles ,'Chosen'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Pix - Jul 30, 2007 1:29:03 pm PDT #327 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I agree with ita.


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 1:30:27 pm PDT #328 of 6786

Which is why I don't understand tossing it out without discussion.

Because I think that there's a growing number of people that want to talk a little bit about a lot of shows as opposed to alot about a few shows. Not to say that that needs to be accomodated, but I think that's the reason individual show threads aren't being discussed more right now.


megan walker - Jul 30, 2007 1:31:25 pm PDT #329 of 6786
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Question: do people think anything was learned from the Experimental Threads?

As I (and Fred Pete) said above, I think The Office showed that it could generate significant discussion when pulled out of Natter.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 1:32:42 pm PDT #330 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's different if you have 4 conflicting Monday shows that you're trying to watch and not be spoiled for.

yeah, that's the problem, IMO. I sort of feel that if I'm watching on Tivo delay, that's my problem, and I have to deal with watching late. If I have two shows on at the same time (Wednesday night, I'm looking at you!), then it's not my fault that I'm watching one of them late and could be spoiled by a W&P or Wednesday thread.


Lee - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:05 pm PDT #331 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But I think that they supported it because the anti-new thread people were upset, and they didn't want to see them upset.

I think you and I see the situation very differently. I saw a lot of people getting upset about the discussion, regardless of their position on the bucket threads, or even if they really had one. To me, the upset was not one sided, and the agreement was not appeasement based.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:39 pm PDT #332 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But if there's a thread per show, just don't go into that thread till you've watched the episode--it solves the problem quite precisely. You can discuss everything you're caught up on without seeing any discussion of what you haven't.

Which is why I don't understand tossing it out without discussion.

Wait, I thought that we weren't talking about single show threads. I think that's a separate discussion than how to divide bucket threads, and in that case, tivo/DVR delay is a cogent issue.


Pix - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:45 pm PDT #333 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Just a sidenote, I don't think having an area/folder with some single-thread arc-y shows and having Boxed Set are mutually exclusive. I think it would be unfair to take away Boxed Set from those who love it and use it.


Scrappy - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:48 pm PDT #334 of 6786
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think we also learned that lumping the non-fiction shows together made the discussion of them smarter and more fun than in Natter--and helped Natter by lessening endless white-fonted W&P.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:35:02 pm PDT #335 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because I think that there's a growing number of people that want to talk a little bit about a lot of shows as opposed to alot about a few shows.

Not addressed particularly well by small bucket threads, which keep coming up.

Honestly, all it takes is for your show to be in the wrong bucket, or for you to watch the ep when the network shows it on Friday instead of Tuesday, but the reason you do that is because you have conflicting shows on Tuesday, and you want to discuss them.

You've not committed the sin of TiVoing--you're just doing what the network is letting you.

Let us, of course, not mention watching shows online. Watched an entire season of CSI that way, and about half of The Unit and some GA.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:37:04 pm PDT #336 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought that we weren't talking about single show threads.

But why not? That's what I don't know. If we're talking about who we are, how do we know we're not a single show thread board? There's some shared knowledge that I haven't got a taste of, and I want to know.

I think we also learned that lumping the non-fiction shows together made the discussion of them smarter and more fun than in Natter--and helped Natter by lessening endless white-fonted W&P.

Helped your Natter--but this discussion makes it clear that people want different things from Natter. Some want more, some less, some like reading the whitefont, some don't.