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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:35:02 pm PDT #335 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because I think that there's a growing number of people that want to talk a little bit about a lot of shows as opposed to alot about a few shows.

Not addressed particularly well by small bucket threads, which keep coming up.

Honestly, all it takes is for your show to be in the wrong bucket, or for you to watch the ep when the network shows it on Friday instead of Tuesday, but the reason you do that is because you have conflicting shows on Tuesday, and you want to discuss them.

You've not committed the sin of TiVoing--you're just doing what the network is letting you.

Let us, of course, not mention watching shows online. Watched an entire season of CSI that way, and about half of The Unit and some GA.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:37:04 pm PDT #336 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought that we weren't talking about single show threads.

But why not? That's what I don't know. If we're talking about who we are, how do we know we're not a single show thread board? There's some shared knowledge that I haven't got a taste of, and I want to know.

I think we also learned that lumping the non-fiction shows together made the discussion of them smarter and more fun than in Natter--and helped Natter by lessening endless white-fonted W&P.

Helped your Natter--but this discussion makes it clear that people want different things from Natter. Some want more, some less, some like reading the whitefont, some don't.


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 1:37:58 pm PDT #337 of 6786

I think you and I see the situation very differently. I saw a lot of people getting upset about the discussion, regardless of their position on the bucket threads, or even if they really had one. To me, the upset was not one sided, and the agreement was not appeasement based.

Okay. We see it differently. That's fine. I'm honestly not looking to upset you any further. Agreeing to disagree works for me.


Lee - Jul 30, 2007 1:42:48 pm PDT #338 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm honestly not looking to upset you any further.

Or I you. You just hold a different view of the situation that I was curious about.


Kristen - Jul 30, 2007 1:44:15 pm PDT #339 of 6786

I say that we shouldn't consider delayed viewing.

A good percentage views on a delay simply due to where they live.

With a bucket as huge as the proposed Broadcast Drama thread, even if someone in a non-Eastern time zone watches these programs as they air (not tape or DVR delayed), they still need to exit the thread every day when prime time starts on the East Coast and can't return until prime time is over in their time zone.

When you have a single show thread (or even a small bucket), it's not a big deal to avoid a thread for a few hours a week. When you have to avoid the same thread for 4-6 hours every day, I question its usefulness.


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 2:24:12 pm PDT #340 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

do we have a thread of 4 shows that ND watches as they air and another of shows that I watch as they air and another for shows that Vortex watches on delay, etc.

Okay, for me it's not really about which four shows are lumped together it's about keeping the number of shows low. It's not even about it being 4 shows I watch. If there is one show in there that I watch then this works. The trick is with four shows in a thread, if there are two of the four that I watch and I'm behind on one of them and I really want to discuss the other one, that's only one show I have to catch up on to head into that thread. Even if I watch all four shows in the thread it's much easier for me to catch up and be able to post. With larger threads it becomes more and more untenable. With larger bucket threads it becomes an issue of catching up on half a dozen shows before I can enter the thread and post and not be spoiled. If I'm more than a week behind I might as well just give up and not post.

Catching up on one or two episodes of an hour long show is something I can do in an evening. Catching up on 10 episodes of varied shows is a project that has to wait until a large break for me, and by then it feels like my opportunity to post has passed.

Am I making any sense?


ChiKat - Jul 30, 2007 2:35:23 pm PDT #341 of 6786
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

The show discussions make me crazy and I will only care about any thread formation IF it slows down the board or starts bringing in a ton of new folk who find their way into Natter

Two questions: 1) slows down the board as a whole or specific threads? I suspect that if we have more threads, the discussion board-wide will actually increase.

2) What's wrong with new people in Natter?


Zenkitty - Jul 30, 2007 2:41:42 pm PDT #342 of 6786
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yes, ND.

I thought we weren't talking about single-show threads because that was too much thread proliferation for the Board to support. But if that's not the case, then I'm with ita: why aren't we talking about single-show threads?

One thing that I saw mentioned was a desire to re-create the intensity of conversation that existed with BtVS. That isn't likely to happen in Natter or a big-bucket thread.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 2:45:23 pm PDT #343 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't remember why. Perhaps it's a throwback from when we folded threads together to save bandwith?


NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 2:47:09 pm PDT #344 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

That's how we got Boxed Set. It was part of the big thread consolidation. It was on an 11 part ballot if my memory is correct. We even discussed folding movies and music back into natter.