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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 1:25:55 pm PDT #324 of 6786

I just don't see this. It's true that I don't like the bucket threads as proposed, and that I suggested delaying the vote, but if no one else had agreed with me, I would have dropped it, but other people did, including people who want the bucket threads. It was not tied to any one specific issue; I suggested it because I honestly felt that waiting was for the best of the board as a community, for a variety of reasons.

I don't doubt at all that that is why you suggested it. And, yes, I realize that people that do want bucket threads supported the delay. But I think that they supported it because the anti-new thread people were upset, and they didn't want to see them upset. Which is fine. All I'm trying to say is that I don't see multiple smaller threads taking away any of that initial upset.


bon bon - Jul 30, 2007 1:26:01 pm PDT #325 of 6786
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

But how many individuals does it take to become a subcommunity? I heard a lot of people expressing similar concerns about the all-or-nothing approach of bucket threads, more than I thought, actually

It's not a matter of numbers. If the common interest is "this thread does not work for me" then that is not a subcommunity, that's a common complaint. If the same group of people had a single solution that worked for all of them, then that might be a subcommunity.


§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:26:44 pm PDT #326 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

because each person will have different delayed needs, unless you want to do a blanket thing like whitefont for 24 hours.

But if there's a thread per show, just don't go into that thread till you've watched the episode--it solves the problem quite precisely. You can discuss everything you're caught up on without seeing any discussion of what you haven't.

Which is why I don't understand tossing it out without discussion.


Pix - Jul 30, 2007 1:29:03 pm PDT #327 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I agree with ita.


Denise - Jul 30, 2007 1:30:27 pm PDT #328 of 6786

Which is why I don't understand tossing it out without discussion.

Because I think that there's a growing number of people that want to talk a little bit about a lot of shows as opposed to alot about a few shows. Not to say that that needs to be accomodated, but I think that's the reason individual show threads aren't being discussed more right now.


megan walker - Jul 30, 2007 1:31:25 pm PDT #329 of 6786
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Question: do people think anything was learned from the Experimental Threads?

As I (and Fred Pete) said above, I think The Office showed that it could generate significant discussion when pulled out of Natter.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 1:32:42 pm PDT #330 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's different if you have 4 conflicting Monday shows that you're trying to watch and not be spoiled for.

yeah, that's the problem, IMO. I sort of feel that if I'm watching on Tivo delay, that's my problem, and I have to deal with watching late. If I have two shows on at the same time (Wednesday night, I'm looking at you!), then it's not my fault that I'm watching one of them late and could be spoiled by a W&P or Wednesday thread.


Lee - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:05 pm PDT #331 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But I think that they supported it because the anti-new thread people were upset, and they didn't want to see them upset.

I think you and I see the situation very differently. I saw a lot of people getting upset about the discussion, regardless of their position on the bucket threads, or even if they really had one. To me, the upset was not one sided, and the agreement was not appeasement based.


Vortex - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:39 pm PDT #332 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But if there's a thread per show, just don't go into that thread till you've watched the episode--it solves the problem quite precisely. You can discuss everything you're caught up on without seeing any discussion of what you haven't.

Which is why I don't understand tossing it out without discussion.

Wait, I thought that we weren't talking about single show threads. I think that's a separate discussion than how to divide bucket threads, and in that case, tivo/DVR delay is a cogent issue.


Pix - Jul 30, 2007 1:34:45 pm PDT #333 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Just a sidenote, I don't think having an area/folder with some single-thread arc-y shows and having Boxed Set are mutually exclusive. I think it would be unfair to take away Boxed Set from those who love it and use it.