Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Ailleann - Sep 12, 2007 10:59:56 am PDT #1607 of 6786
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I like Right Here, Damnit.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2007 12:09:19 pm PDT #1608 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

Natter 54: Disco Ball not included.

eta

I guess I'm about an hour late on this.


le nubian - Sep 12, 2007 5:08:46 pm PDT #1609 of 6786
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Where will talk of "Bionic Woman" go?


DebetEsse - Sep 12, 2007 5:12:33 pm PDT #1610 of 6786
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Boxed Set, I assume.


Pix - Sep 12, 2007 5:46:06 pm PDT #1611 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

When the proposal for Boxed Set was made, was it for all sci-fi fantasy to go in it automatically? It happened shortly before I joined the board, so I didn't see the original proposal.


DebetEsse - Sep 12, 2007 5:49:07 pm PDT #1612 of 6786
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't know, but I'd say it's become more or less standard procedure, particularly for network and basic cable stuff.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 6:21:19 pm PDT #1613 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's become more than standard procedure, but I'm one of the ones who never realised anyone thought it wasn't automatic, so my word is tainted on it. Every thing I've ever said about or in description of that thread has been with that as the basic bright line definition. When we said "genre" I heard "sci fi." And when people said "What is genre?" I answered "Sci fi."

Nobody told me differently--the media fannish conversation I tried to follow seemed to run alongside without colliding.


Ailleann - Sep 12, 2007 6:29:33 pm PDT #1614 of 6786
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

FTR, I have also always assumed that Boxed Set = Where The Sci-Fi Lives.


Laga - Sep 12, 2007 6:51:46 pm PDT #1615 of 6786
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Boxed Set is where I go to look for scifi (TV) talk.


Nutty - Sep 12, 2007 7:04:28 pm PDT #1616 of 6786
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

When the proposal for Boxed Set was made, was it for all sci-fi fantasy to go in it automatically?

Yeah, Boxed Set was always understood to be pan-sci fi, even during our anxiety over whether it would get lumpy and turn into a general TV thread. (It didn't.) Even the mediafannish subtext hasn't affected that; occasionally something that is mediafannish, but isn't sci-fi (like, say, Spooks/MI-5) used to crop up, and we shooed it back toward Natter.

The core source texts, when we mooshed three threads into one to make Boxed Set, were formally stated as: Farscape, Smallville, and DueSouth (cough cough also secretly Stargate cough). So, the throughline to "all sci fi (including magical realism) all the time (including both cable and broadcast)" is a pretty straightforward one. It wasn't mandated as such overtly, because at the time we were just mooshing threads to save server load; but it's been consistent practice for several years now that anything counter-realistic probably belongs there.