You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


DebetEsse - Sep 12, 2007 5:49:07 pm PDT #1612 of 6786
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I don't know, but I'd say it's become more or less standard procedure, particularly for network and basic cable stuff.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 6:21:19 pm PDT #1613 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's become more than standard procedure, but I'm one of the ones who never realised anyone thought it wasn't automatic, so my word is tainted on it. Every thing I've ever said about or in description of that thread has been with that as the basic bright line definition. When we said "genre" I heard "sci fi." And when people said "What is genre?" I answered "Sci fi."

Nobody told me differently--the media fannish conversation I tried to follow seemed to run alongside without colliding.


Ailleann - Sep 12, 2007 6:29:33 pm PDT #1614 of 6786
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

FTR, I have also always assumed that Boxed Set = Where The Sci-Fi Lives.


Laga - Sep 12, 2007 6:51:46 pm PDT #1615 of 6786
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Boxed Set is where I go to look for scifi (TV) talk.


Nutty - Sep 12, 2007 7:04:28 pm PDT #1616 of 6786
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

When the proposal for Boxed Set was made, was it for all sci-fi fantasy to go in it automatically?

Yeah, Boxed Set was always understood to be pan-sci fi, even during our anxiety over whether it would get lumpy and turn into a general TV thread. (It didn't.) Even the mediafannish subtext hasn't affected that; occasionally something that is mediafannish, but isn't sci-fi (like, say, Spooks/MI-5) used to crop up, and we shooed it back toward Natter.

The core source texts, when we mooshed three threads into one to make Boxed Set, were formally stated as: Farscape, Smallville, and DueSouth (cough cough also secretly Stargate cough). So, the throughline to "all sci fi (including magical realism) all the time (including both cable and broadcast)" is a pretty straightforward one. It wasn't mandated as such overtly, because at the time we were just mooshing threads to save server load; but it's been consistent practice for several years now that anything counter-realistic probably belongs there.


Beverly - Sep 12, 2007 7:05:28 pm PDT #1617 of 6786
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Mystery is a genre. Cop-sci is a genre. Soaps are a genre.

If you're going to have a Sci Fi thread, the title and the slug should be changed to reflect that, I'd think, since CSI: and L&O: All Flavors, as well as every other type of show now comes in DVD Boxed Sets, and the thread has been repurposed from, "Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex," as its primary avenue of discussion, along with vid and fic recs, and other tie-ins and cross-show and genre recs.

Or, to quote Randy of the Redwoods, "The factory's still there but they're building something else now." Time to repaint the sign to reflect present content.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 7:09:02 pm PDT #1618 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The slug currently says "Discussions of sci-fi/fantasy shows we watch. Smallville, Due South, Farscape, Stargate, BSG, etc. May contain HoYay."

I don't see how it needs revising.

The description reads:

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

If you don't know/agree what "genre" means, then I see room for improvement. But I don't think it's unclear, especially since the slug is what you see first. Still, overstating is better than under-.


Beverly - Sep 12, 2007 7:19:09 pm PDT #1619 of 6786
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

My point would be that there is more than one type of genre, but "the genre thread" is being used only for SciFi, fantasy, magical realism. In which case, a thread title more concretely descriptive might be preferable.

Or not. Just a passing thought.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 7:21:08 pm PDT #1620 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To me, "genre" (as opposed to genre) means just the one thing. And it has been stated outright on the more main page what the genres are. But, as noted, I have no problem with being explicit. Just that the slug already is, and for some, so is the description.

I'll go edit right now.


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 7:22:06 pm PDT #1621 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Done.