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Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


esse - Aug 19, 2007 5:10:20 pm PDT #1398 of 6786
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

::grin:: I hereby amend to Quirky Drama then. Those totally weren't going to be thread titles, though. I am crap at making up titles.


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 5:13:36 pm PDT #1399 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Wouldn't a drama thread be a no for the next 6 months due to the proposal that was just voted down?


brenda m - Aug 19, 2007 5:14:48 pm PDT #1400 of 6786
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, that would be another problem with the "other stuff" thread. Otherwise it all seems kosher to me.


§ ita § - Aug 19, 2007 5:15:45 pm PDT #1401 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess we have to determine if a slightly different drama thread is enough different from the previous proposal to fall under the prohibition.

If it is sufficiently different I really hope we can decide clearly what is different enough so there's not an unending cascade of thread requests, for which there'll be no doubt that the proposer sees a bright line between it and one that failed.


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 5:18:46 pm PDT #1402 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Drama We Watch That Isn't Procedurals.

and

Quirky Drama

are both basically Drama threads. So I would hope that people would respect our voting procedures and not re-propose until the 6 month moritorium is over.


brenda m - Aug 19, 2007 5:22:38 pm PDT #1403 of 6786
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I agree on the first but I think the second would depend a lot on how it was defined.


Kat - Aug 19, 2007 5:27:25 pm PDT #1404 of 6786
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ugh. I think the semantics of trying to define what makes a "quirky" drama is a miasma of shit that I don't want the board to step into.

Procedurals. clear sort of and makes sense. Comedy. clear sort of except for the Ugly Bettys of the world. But "Quirky" drama is a lot like "media fannishness." Frankly I think it ends up being "quirky" in a faux-intellectual "we think its quirky because we watch it" way and I would object to it being proposed within the next 6 months.


esse - Aug 19, 2007 5:41:23 pm PDT #1405 of 6786
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Well, I resent the implication that I'm trying to circumvent board voting policy. That is most adamantly not what I was attempting to do; I was trying to meet the needs of television watching we will likely be doing according to the poll results, while going forward with a proposal because we've been talking in circles for awhile now.

That said, I think the difference is that the Network Drama thread was meant to encompass all the drama shows airing in the fall on the network stations. If we start filtering shows down more, I think the limited scope of the remaining shows could--and should--have its own thread. Call it "Quirky Network Shows" or whatever, but I think it's sufficiently different from the scope of the previous network drama proposal to be within the purview of our rules.


lisah - Aug 19, 2007 5:43:59 pm PDT #1406 of 6786
Punishingly Intricate

But "Quirky" drama is a lot like "media fannishness." Frankly I think it ends up being "quirky" in a faux-intellectual "we think its quirky because we watch it" way and I would object to it being proposed within the next 6 months

I'd agree with Kat. My quirky may not be your quirky (for example, House does not seem quirky to me. Yeah, the main character is odd but the show is what I would think of as a procedural, a medical procedural that is).


Lee - Aug 19, 2007 5:47:36 pm PDT #1407 of 6786
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

How are you defining quirky though? Does quirky mean having quirky characters, or a quirky set up, or a quirky setting, or all three?

eta (or what Lisah said)