I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Nilly - Aug 16, 2007 10:06:03 pm PDT #1186 of 6786
Swouncing

t taking a break from catching-up to see what is currently being discussed

Oh, this game again! Yay! I love it when we play the "when I delurked and why" game. And I think it's quite appropriate, looking at the past, when we're trying to think about our future.

My first post was in the second "Angel" thread. I've been lurking for such a long time then, but it took me this forever to trust my English, and, well, to actually, you know, have something to say.

The original reason for my lurking was the way BtVS was pulled here, they stopped showing it, with what seemed as zero chances of return, and I missed my show and those characters. It was the first time in my life that I actually went looking for "what happened then" (I don't think I've heard the word "spoilers" at the time. I called it "looking at the ending of the book"). None of the "episode guide" sites gave me what I was looking for, which was the feel of the episodes and what they made you think, which was what I liked most. I was already reading on Salon and TT at the time, so finding the "Buffy" thread was easy.

But this meant, of course, that by definition, I really had nothing to say. I didn't watch these episodes, I only recognized maybe one out of four from the cultural references, and I always had to have an English-Hebrew dictionary at the ready. Even when distinct names started to become people, and I began to like those names-who-are-people on the screen, I still had pretty much nothing to say.

But then, I did. It was a discussion about "Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been", and people commented about the amount and detail of the references to the time in which the flashback parts of the episode took place. I just saw the episode (I had a tape fairy. I don't think that downloading episodes of TV shows was possible at the time, or at least common knowledge, and yes, my prudish self wonders to this day what that same prudish self would have done, had it been possible, but, well, it hadn't been, and that's that).

So people kept writing that there were too many references to USA history, that they were too heavily pointed-at, that diluting them or putting them in the background could have been enough and subtler, and I suddenly realized that I wanted to say that, no, it was just the exact amount and lighting for a stranger from another country, history and language to follow it all. And *then* I realized that I meant that I had something to say, something that nobody else there could have said, because nobody had my perspective. I could really contribute something original to the conversation.

So I tried. And it went OK. The people who were nice and polite to each other continued being nice and polite to me, as well, surprisingly enough, and apparently I managed to make my English appear passable (I was so proud), without a too-thick accent. Phew. Back to lurking and having-nothing-to-say, right?

Only, I got a taste for posting, now. And before I knew it, the rest is still being history.

I remember the first time I felt like I wasn't just a name-on-a-screen to somebody else, that I became a person to somebody's screen, not just opinions-on-a-tv-show. It was in a discussion with ita (IIRC, something to do with Xander and Anya, but I am really not sure how RC this is). She wrote something to the effect of "you're wrong. First of, because you are, and second, because actual-reason-blah-blah-blah-I-can't-remember-any-of-it-cakes".

And I was thrilled, because, hey, the stranger on the internet joked with me, and trusted that I would understand the humor, and didn't worry about walking-on-eggshells the way you do with complete strangers, the way you have to be completely polite around them and only let your guard down among people you feel more comfortable with. I was a "let your font's guard down" person, yay (also, easily thrilled, I guess).

It still took me quite some time to dare to play games with English, to flow with my thoughts when I type, and to discover how large are the paragraphs I can throw at the screen if I don't pay attention. Um, pretty much like right now, so I better shut my keyboard up.

t back to catching up


Nilly - Aug 16, 2007 10:06:05 pm PDT #1187 of 6786
Swouncing

[Edited to try to make my loooooong post look a little less long by being only one post and not two.]


Sue - Aug 17, 2007 3:02:51 am PDT #1188 of 6786
hip deep in pie

I delurked on TT in Jan of 2001. (Tom W. delurked on the same day I did.) I was lurking since I found TT through the articles on the whole Columbine/Graduation Day II disaster. I almost delurked then to offer my tape of GD II, but then I got shy.

I think in the first week I accidentally spoiled people and mispelled Betsy's name, so I was a bit careful of saying anything after that.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 17, 2007 3:12:00 am PDT #1189 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I lurked over at TT and WorldXing for a LOOOONG time (I think I came in at the second Buffy thread on TT). Finally de-lurked after the Phoenix went live, not too long before the Nilly tour (though I think it was closer to the debut of Wonderfalls and the Angel finale - I can't keep track of which came when except that the viewing party at Jon B's for the Wonderfalls debut was my first F2F Buffista event).


Aims - Aug 17, 2007 3:46:24 am PDT #1190 of 6786
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Joe got here first and would. not. shut. up. about these damned "Buffistas". I Google'd, lurked for about a day. Just enough time to read some of Joe's posts and then freak him out by repeating the same conversations, but with my work friends names instead. I think it was the prom conversation in Natter round about June of 2002.

Then, I just barged in the party, ita named me Empress, and now, I'll go away when you pry my keyboard and my tiara from my cold, dead hands.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2007 4:09:03 am PDT #1191 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Delurked on TT in Buffy 5x5, after wandering around terribly confused in the Attic for about a week and a half. (The link I'd followed on Salon originally led me to the archived first or second thread, and it took me several days to figure out where the current conversations were happening. I was not so wise in the ways of the interwebs as I am now.)


Tom Scola - Aug 17, 2007 5:11:51 am PDT #1192 of 6786
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I posted once in TT Buffy 1, maybe once in Buffy 2, and slowly worked my way up to the brisk pace of posting that I now do.


lisah - Aug 17, 2007 5:36:46 am PDT #1193 of 6786
Punishingly Intricate

02:06 pm Pacific Time - Feb 24, 1999 - #900 of 4014

That seems to be my first (and only) post in TT Buffy 1. And then I know I was super lurky for a long, long time.


Jon B. - Aug 17, 2007 5:38:23 am PDT #1194 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So people kept writing that there were too many references to USA history, that they were too heavily pointed-at, that diluting them or putting them in the background could have been enough and subtler, and I suddenly realized that I wanted to say that, no, it was just the exact amount and lighting for a stranger from another country, history and language to follow it all.

Hey, I remember that! I was (one of?) the one(s?) complaining about that!


Stephanie - Aug 17, 2007 6:04:49 am PDT #1195 of 6786
Trust my rage

Who was the spikeloost story about again? It always makes me laugh whenever I think of it, but I can't remember who it was about.

I delurked in 2003, I think, as a Wonderfalls fan. I think P-C and Kristin showed up around when I did.

It would have been really fun to talk about Buffy, while it was airing, with ya'll.