Played with Kaylee. Sun came out, and I walked on my feet and heard with my ears. I ate the bits, the bits stayed down, and I work. I function like I'm a girl. I hate it because I know it'll go away. The sun goes dark and chaos has come again. Bits. Fluids. What am I?!

River ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Scrappy - Aug 16, 2007 9:14:52 am PDT #1111 of 6786
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Not you, Sophia! IMO, Your posts are always caring and cool to read. Plus the added bonus of !Theater!


victor infante - Aug 16, 2007 9:28:35 am PDT #1112 of 6786
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Doesn't mean they don't want to talk to people here; I think they just want some more focused threads to do so.

Seems I'm late, but for the most part, I barely follow the social threads. They move too fast for my taste, and frankly, the conversations there rarely interest me. But that's me, and I mostly live in the show threads.

I think it's wrong to marginalize the lurker perspective in the poll results

Can I just say I'm in love with the phrase "lurker perspective"?

That being said ...

Yup, definitely. We love you, lurkers! Be happy! We're glad you're there!

I'll be honest, I don't much care about lurkers. And if I know who you are, I don't consider you a lurker. Just quiet. Which is different. And there are some people who seem to consider themselves lurkers who aren't, and really can't be, because I know who they are. So I'm not talking about them. I'm talking people who never post, and never have. I don't even dislike them. I have no emotional attachment to hypothetical people.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2007 9:31:33 am PDT #1113 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I contend that once we know their perspective they are no longer lurking.

But I'm just repeating myself.

If they are still lurkers we can't know anything about their POV, and therefore it's silly to try and accomodate them.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 16, 2007 9:32:58 am PDT #1114 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And if I know who you are, I don't consider you a lurker.

So if they support you in email, they are no longer lurkers.


victor infante - Aug 16, 2007 9:37:46 am PDT #1115 of 6786
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

If they are still lurkers we can't know anything about their POV, and therefore it's silly to try and accomodate them.

As always, ita says it better than I ever possibly could.

So if they support you in email, they are no longer lurkers.

No one supports me in e-mail, except, evidently, the people who try to sell me knock-off Viagra.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2007 9:38:12 am PDT #1116 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think the confusion, as ita has pointed out, is that we are using different definitions of lurker.


victor infante - Aug 16, 2007 9:39:47 am PDT #1117 of 6786
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think the confusion, as ita has pointed out, is that we are using different definitions of lurker.

Yep. I stop considering you a lurker once you post.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2007 9:51:06 am PDT #1118 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And I consider them non-lurkers once they've expressed themselves. So voting and polls and money count.

And what I feel across the board: if you don't express your feelings on the matter you could be posting up a storm, but I'm not going to lose sleep about your unexpressed feelings being catered to.

It's not, for me, about having posted or not. It's about having opined.

So if you vote and never post, you're doing your bit to shape the board, perhaps more than if you post and never vote.


Sean K - Aug 16, 2007 9:52:56 am PDT #1119 of 6786
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Although there is one type of person who meets ita's definition of NOT-a-lurker, but not victor's -- the person who has donated money to the board but never posts.

Okay, this is probably one, maybe two people.

Still, what do we call the almost-lurkers? Lurkeresque?


Ginger - Aug 16, 2007 9:54:01 am PDT #1120 of 6786
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

If a lurker falls in the forest...