Xander ,'Beneath You'
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Pitt's wife getting killed offscreen in Se7en worked for me, because it pointed up the distance between them. We see much more of Gwyneth with Morgan Freeman than we do with Brad Pitt, really. As much as he loved her, he wasn't really cognizant of what was going on with her.
But then, I liked it, so. Visually alone, I thought it was fascinating.
Jessica, I realized that about Håkan when he asked Eli not to see Oskar when she went out that night, and she caressed his cheek. Up until then I thought he might actually have been her father, and just been protecting her for a decade or two. But that scene made it clear that he saw Oskar as his replacement raher than just someone Eli liked .
I thought that Gwyneth's off-screen death fit in perfectly since we didn't see any of the other "sins" get killed, either. And to the murderer, she was just an object, like the other victims.
But, like my namesake, I really liked it. I loved how it looked and it's one of the few BP movies I like.
loved Se7en. loved Zodiac. not many people seem to love or even like Zodiac and it sort of leaves me scratching my head because it held my attention really well. sometimes to the point of me being on the edge of my seat.
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I haven't seen Zodiac yet, but I'd like to. Then again, I love usually Fincher.
I thought that Gwyneth's off-screen death fit in perfectly since we didn't see any of the other "sins" get killed, either. And to the murderer, she was just an object, like the other victims.
Oh, yeah, I got that. It just pinged a whole mess of my issues very strongly at the time.
I figured that with that amount of pretty pretty men it would at least have the eye candy, if nothing else, but the characters just flitted in and out so much I stopped caring, only to be surprised that they show back up only to depress me with how their lives have been f***ed up and destroyed by the Zodiac killer. Boring and depressing!
I can imagine. There are so many issues (not yours, mind, general issues of people in general) that get pinged with that movie.
Though I will agree that "What's in the box??" has become a catch-all phrase for me. Complete with pointing.
It's hard for me to articulate why I didn't like Se7en because I don't know what was so great about it. I didn't hate it, but my reaction was "What's all the fuss about?" I dunno, it has a couple good thriller/horror scenes and it's very pretty to look at, but there was nothing there for me to care about.
And then on the demerit side, it's got Morgan Freeman giving an inspirational VO at the end, which is never good. Plus, titles like "Se7en" and "Thir13en Ghosts" and "Numb3rs" are just 5tup1d.
Most people I know who didn't like the movie saw it later AND had a hate-on for Gwyneth, so they were mostly disappointed not see her (a) head in the box or (b) being decapitated.