"Was she beautiful?"
"She was...the Queen of the Netherlands."

I just watched The Abyss (theatrical version). I think the Amazon.com summary puts it pretty succinctly: "Meticulously crafted but also ponderous and predictable." When it gets all action-y, it's very exciting, but it's very slow. And the aliens...didn't really do much. But I read about what they were supposed to do (in the director's cut), and it's kind of baffling since what Cameron took out appears to be the entire point of the movie. But it may work in his benefit since that point still pretty much comes across-ish, a little more subtly.

I guess there aren't a lot of underwater sci-fi action movies, though, so this is probably one of the better ones.

See, I liked all the characters and didn't find it slow at all. When I watched the director's cut, it was very very preachy (humans are bad and violent and must be destroyed) and took the movie from very insular and character driven to a ridiculous epic disaster movie place (with all the scenes outside the deep sea rig up on the surface with all these people we don't know) that was a little too high on it's horse. For me, at least. Which is odd because most days I think a second flood of forty days and nights would be good.

Maybe I'm just annoyed by the trope of "aliens meet humans and are horrified by how violent and evil we all are". Yeah, that's gonna look good on your resume, wiping out an entire planet sure makes you seem like you value peace and abhor violence. Genocide'll do the trick when some other alien race is acting as your judge, jury and executioner.

it's kind of baffling since what Cameron took out appears to be the entire point of the movie.

The studio made him do it (the Director's Cut is WAAAAAY long).

The DC tells a more complete story, but I think I generally agree with Juliebird, and think the theatrical version tells a better (if unfinished) story.

OMGAWESOMEBEYONDWORDS!!!!!!!! (links to video)

Did we see the One-sheet for Neuromancer?

please, please don't let this suck

Maybe I'm just annoyed by the trope of "aliens meet humans and are horrified by how violent and evil we all are".

I really want a movie where the aliens come in, accidentally introduce some virulent bug that kills off a bunch of people, and are horrified by the results of contact.

OMGAWESOMEBEYONDWORDS!!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH! my brother was telling me there was another one. he went to see...something and it was a trailer. i'm so excited.

OMGAWESOMEBEYONDWORDS!!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH! my brother was telling me there was another one. he went to see...something and it was a trailer. i'm so excited.

Wait...you guys are serious? I thought they were supposed to be bad, mockable movies. I've wanted to see the first one for a while, though, because...it looks cool. I like movies that are both fast and furious, I think. Plus, explosions and hot chicks.

The trailer music is "We Are Rockstars," by Does It Offend You, Yeah? It's a fun song.

I am amused that they have named a sequel by simply removing articles.

Dude, I'd watch Walter Matthau read the phone book. I'd watch it twice if Jack Lemmon did N-Z. (not BNB is like that. it's not...it's funny.) Breaking Away...young Dennis Quaid. Yum! "Those are good arms to have."

The first Fast & Furious is great for what it is, which is a true B movie. It exists to entertain and that's what it does. I loves me a good B movie and so I really enjoyed it. You gotta like cars, though.