You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.

Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Strega - Jul 24, 2008 5:52:10 pm PDT #7399 of 10000

I think that with Nolan movies, plot comes first and theme gets layered on second, and the result in TDK was that the themes were often incoherent, internally contradictory, and expressed in dialogue/speeches/narration.

Wow, really? I trust Nolan with themes and concepts. And to be fair, up until this movie I trusted him with plot too, but I think the concepts interest him more than the details. I need to see TDK again... there's a lot of plot stuff I suspect I'll be disappointed by, but my impression was that the plot was sacrificed for the sake of the ideas.

And I'm okay with that to an extent because, as with Batman Begins, I did totally groove on the themes. But that means seeing it again will make a bit angry about the not-making-sense bits. Unless, y'know, it does. I'd love it if it all makes more sense on a second viewing. It just didn't feel like it would.

Er, anyway, I am totally on board with the complaint that the "What nickname did y'all have for me?" scene in the hospital came way, way, way too late to feel anything but clunky.

And re some of the other whitefont above: I do think some of the more horrific events were excised to get a PG-13. I also think some of it was deliberate, but... yeah. I am sorta anticipating a director's cut "with bonus gore!" eventually.


Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2008 7:44:08 pm PDT #7400 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Wow, really? I trust Nolan with themes and concepts.

Yeah, I completely agree. I think all his movies are very thematically strong. But I also think they're very strong in plot as well. Although, okay, maybe the Batman movies are a little more focused on theme than plot, as you note.


Fred Pete - Jul 25, 2008 5:17:23 am PDT #7401 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm looking for Angie Dickinson.

Any of the LAistas have any idea where I might find that info?

Not an LAista, but IMDb has a category for Contact Info. Unfortunately, you need to have IMDbPro to access, and I don't.


Laga - Jul 25, 2008 11:36:02 am PDT #7402 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Did we know Rose McGowan was starring in a Red Sonja remake directed by Robert Rodriguez?

edit: click through to the end for more pictures that make the Watchmen movie look like it's going to be spot-on.


Scrappy - Jul 25, 2008 11:59:45 am PDT #7403 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Like any right-minded cheapskate, whenever there is a weekend preview for one of the movie channels, we TiVo all the movies for later viewing. This led to a HUGE MISTAKE. We watched "The Black Dahlia" last night and it was OMG so bad. Josh Hartnett seesm like he should be a movie star, with the heroic looks and the perfect body, but he is just so not interesting to watch. Scarlett J. seemed to be floundering--although she has the right body for '40s underwear. And let us not speak of Hilary Swank as an overly-arch Femme Fatale. shudders at the recollection

The DH pointed out that is was one of those films where every single choice was the most obvious one. Like, if you go to a rich person's house, classical music will be playing. And not just any classical music, "Pachelbel's Canon."


megan walker - Jul 25, 2008 12:47:38 pm PDT #7404 of 10000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

My brain is fried and I have a dropdeadline in 1/2 hour. Can anyone think of a recent (2004-) American remake of a French film?


juliana - Jul 25, 2008 12:51:11 pm PDT #7405 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

edit: wait, no.


Laga - Jul 25, 2008 12:53:19 pm PDT #7406 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

does 2009 count?


Hayden - Jul 25, 2008 12:54:25 pm PDT #7407 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I can think of several, but none recent.


Laga - Jul 25, 2008 12:57:01 pm PDT #7408 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

the '90s are thick with them. The most recent one I can think of so far is Just Visiting (Les Visiteurs) but that's 2001. German doesn't count, huh? (Mostly Martha) I'll keep thinking.