Second, even if he didn't seem too dumb to be Dent, there is something sleazy about AE. I never bought the white knight angle, just assumed he was somehow compromised.
(I can re-white-font if need be, but I didn't think it was a spoiler that Harvey Dent was supposed to be the "white knight" contrast to Batman.)
Anyway, I didn't think that Harvey Dent was supposed to be pure of intent; I thought that he was supposed to -- at the very least -- have a history of being, well, two-faced. (The scene
in the hospital, when he tells Gordon to say the nickname that he [Dent] had in IAD
was REALLY in the wrong place -- too late -- in the movie, IMO. My opinion is that it needed to be mentioned early on and then left alone until
the reveal of his scarred creepiness.)
But anyway, the fact that Harvey even *had* the
Two-Face nickname
back in the day suggests that he's never been Mr. Pureheart White Knight. It's just that he was able to do under the auspices of the law what Batman was doing vigilante-style. Harvey was really only a white knight in contrast with Batman.
I completely agree with your whitefont point Tep. That moment came so late that is dropped to the floor like lead.
I figured it was just me, given I knew it was coming. But yeah, could not have helped the uninitiated to understand the stark personality shift, or even the iconography of the makeup and nickname.
I was a little surprised to see Bruce
falling in love with Harvey so quickly over dinner. I wonder if that scene was longer when originally shot.
My opinion is that it needed to be mentioned early on and then left alone until the reveal
I don't think that
the Two-Face nickname itself provided any new information; it was just there as a setup. We knew that he wasn't very well liked by the other officers because, well, no one likes when Internal Affairs comes in and indicts your friends. And the thing is, he was RIGHT. There WERE a bunch of corrupt cops on the force, so I don't think he's not supposed to be Mr. Pureheart White Knight, entirely. I think we were pretty much supposed to see him as a good guy.
I thought in the comic books Dent was a white knight due to the fact that he fought so hard to resist what he saw as his own dark side.
I was a little surprised to see Bruce [whitefont redacted]
*chokes on coffee* You know what it reminded me of? Velvet Goldmine. I'm sure someone else has said it, but were you also expecting hearts in his eyes and a declaration that "You could be my main man."?
P-C, that's from the last movie, yeah? Because without having seen BB, I think the nickname scene was the first I'd heard of
him being IA, or there being strife there beyond any normal cop/prosecutor stuff. A nod to that stuff up front would've helped, I think.
were you also expecting ...
His
eyes did seem awfully twinkly.
There was mention of Harvey
being in IA near the beginning of the movie, though I forget exactly which scene.
Mentioning BB reminded me of the headtwist of complete throw away of
Cillian Murphy
in the parking garage. Whattha? Did I miss the part where he started
paying for his sins
?
The rest of the movie was so...um...arresting, that I totally forgot about that bit until just this second.