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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2008 2:52:16 am PDT #7356 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hey, anyone know what was the name given in the credits for

Was that the cop the Joker taunted and then got taken hostage? Because I think that was Keith Szarabajka (aka Holtz) who according to imdb played Detective Stephens. Otherwise I'm not sure who you're talking about.

ETA there was also an actor named Philip Bullock who played a Det. Murphy.


sumi - Jul 24, 2008 4:39:50 am PDT #7357 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, that one guy in the holding cell with the Joker was Holtz. Hard to recognize without the beard.


Miracleman - Jul 24, 2008 4:50:46 am PDT #7358 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Holy crap. I did not recognize him.


Jon B. - Jul 24, 2008 4:53:43 am PDT #7359 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

FAQWife and I have just been (re)watching Angel S3 lately, and neither of us recognized him either!


tiggy - Jul 24, 2008 5:02:34 am PDT #7360 of 10000
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I knew he was going to be in it, but i totally didn't recognize him until he was arguing with Gordon about...something.


bon bon - Jul 24, 2008 5:49:07 am PDT #7361 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I agree with Plei about Dent. First, I just have a problem with Eckhart even coming into the movie -- every time I see an interview with him, he seems exceptionally stupid. I find it hard to believe he makes it out of the house in the morning. So every role is compromised by that. Second, even if he didn't seem too dumb to be Dent, there is something sleazy about AE. I never bought the white knight angle, just assumed he was somehow compromised. He looks terrific, though -- that dimple does half the work. I have tried to mentally recast the role. Matt Damon, maybe?


Tom Scola - Jul 24, 2008 5:52:53 am PDT #7362 of 10000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Matt Damon, maybe?

He'd be a better Dent, but not a very good Two-Face.

Ironically, I think that a younger Jeff Bridges would have been perfect.


P.M. Marc - Jul 24, 2008 6:25:01 am PDT #7363 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think he'd have made an excellent Dent and Two-Face, but I'm not sure he's pretty enough for Dent. I am sure, however, that he has the chops to convince me of it. Damon's sold me on some serious crap over the years. I have reluctantly gained an appreciation.

So Holtz played Stephens? Man, physically, he was SO my mental Harvey Bullock in this.

Steph, I am glad I was spoiled enough to not worry that she'd be Renee, because she was So Shifty. And had I been worrying that she was Renee, I'd have been more cranky about the character abuse than the timing.


Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2008 6:54:24 am PDT #7364 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was weird that Ramirez was so shifty in the movie because in Gotham Knight, she was much more Montoya-esque, believing in Batman and all, in contrast to her partner.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2008 7:18:32 am PDT #7365 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

I recognized 'Holtz' immeidately, but less for his looks, what with the no beard and few pounds more but for his voice. I've listened to audiobooks where he used his natural speaking voice which is VERY different from Holtz.

I remember an Angel commentary track where they were making fun of him for having a high pitched, New Yawker voice.