It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


beekaytee - Jul 23, 2008 4:27:36 pm PDT #7336 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Oh jeebus, Ailleann. You are absolutely right. Thanks for catching that. I was so up in my uppitiness that it didn't even occur to me. Duly edited.


Gris - Jul 23, 2008 4:59:43 pm PDT #7337 of 10000
Hey. New board.

I think Ledger's performance is Oscar-worthy. I completely and utterly forgot that he was Heath Ledger, or even an actor at all. He completely drew me in, freaked me out as a psychopathic human in a way I haven't felt since Silence of the Lambs. In some ways, I actually think his performance out-classed Hopkins'.

We actually discussed the movie, and Ledger specifically, in my acting class today, focusing on the way he used his body. He leads with different parts of his body constantly, totally different, physically, in different cases. He actually made me believe that the Joker is a natural actor - witness how well the character emulated a thug in the first scene, the nurse, and so on, with completely different body language. But even when he was being "himself," the fact that he was able to move his limbs so fluidly without ever looking ridiculous, simply unnerving, is astonishing.


Steph L. - Jul 23, 2008 5:04:49 pm PDT #7338 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I definitely missed something huge in Ledger's performance that all y'all got from the movie. Interesting.


beekaytee - Jul 23, 2008 5:05:20 pm PDT #7339 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Once again, I completely agree with all of that Gris. So much of what he did was organic and perfect for the scenario.

I especially noticed the use of his tongue...consistent with someone with an injury and who is not in control if much. Still, I have to say, I noticed. I admired every part of the performance. But I never forgot who I was watching.

It would be interesting to know what my response to the performance would have been if the life story had been different.


Gris - Jul 23, 2008 5:07:54 pm PDT #7340 of 10000
Hey. New board.

By the way, speaking of Gary Oldman as Gordon - if he were given a bit more screen time, I'd totally be down with him getting a nomination too. I think his performance is nearly as impressive. It's just more relatable, so we forget about it.

If this were a TV series, I'd expect Oldman to get an Emmy nom, for sure. There seems to be a bit more respect in the acting world for that sort of supporting actor.


beekaytee - Jul 23, 2008 5:15:49 pm PDT #7341 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

that sort of supporting actor

All things being equal, my favorite kind of actor...far and away above the hunky/gorgeous star.

For someone not involved in the industry, I have an inexplicable love for the character actor who keeps on truckin'.

Brad Dourif, Adam Baldwin, Walter Brennan, Frances McDormand, Julie Dench, Julie Walters. On and on.


P.M. Marc - Jul 23, 2008 5:22:47 pm PDT #7342 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think Oldman deserved a nod for sure for BB. Oldman's excellent. I have appreciated him for over two decades!

Saw DK today.

The fascinating thing to me was how human, yet alien, the Joker was. There was no camp to the character at all. (Which is hard to pull off when he's wearing a nurse's uniform, I tell you what!)

I actually thought that the weakest link in casting this time around was Harvey. I wasn't totally sold by AE's performance. It might have been me, not his acting, as AE just looks kinda smarmy to me.


Jon B. - Jul 23, 2008 5:27:07 pm PDT #7343 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I thought it was a bit of a nothing story until I looked it up on Wikipedia and found that Pushkin's original was all about how the story was told, not what it was about.

Oh yeah. It's told in verse and is beautifully written.


P.M. Marc - Jul 23, 2008 5:35:08 pm PDT #7344 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, and Watchmen trailer? In IMAX?

HI. HI WATCHMEN MOVIE. DO NOT SUCK, PLZ.


Polter-Cow - Jul 23, 2008 5:52:00 pm PDT #7345 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I especially noticed the use of his tongue...consistent with someone with an injury and who is not in control if much. Still, I have to say, I noticed.

Yeah, that really stood out to me, and I alternated between being creeped/grossed out by it and recognizing it as an Acting Thing.