It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - Jun 06, 2012 9:04:39 am PDT #9706 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, I saw that and am hoping he's just mistaken.

Well, he said he doesn't know right in the interview. I think he was making a presumption.


Jesse - Jun 06, 2012 9:12:31 am PDT #9707 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I find her consistently torn by conflicting motivations. That look she gave Don when she was walking out the door with Sally so he could work? She's not resigned to giving up her own dreams and her own work quite yet. But she is a born caretaker, so once she's out with Sally she slips into that protective older friend role completely.

Yeah, I think that's right -- it's less that she's inconsistently written (although I haven't analyzed it in any serious way) and more that she's conflicted.

On a much less serious show, I was thinking a similar thing watching all the Necessary Roughness last weekend -- it makes perfect character sense that Terrence flips back and forth between "Help me, I'll be good" and "fuck you, I can do what I want."


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 5:44:01 pm PDT #9708 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Anyone here a fan of Rizzoli and Isles? If so, do you like them both? Equally? How did you feel about their rift...well, I guess it's effectively over now..?


Vortex - Jun 06, 2012 6:45:24 pm PDT #9709 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yes, yes. Well, I hope that it's not totally over. I thought that Jane was in the right, but she was an asshole about it. What she should have said is "I'm sorry I shot your father, but I'm not sorry that I shot Patty Doyle"


le nubian - Jun 06, 2012 6:55:18 pm PDT #9710 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The actress who plays Peggy (Elizabeth Moss) was filming a movie at the end of MM, so I don't expect to see Peggy again until next season.

Which is about how they handled Roger's heart attacks.


DavidS - Jun 06, 2012 7:58:21 pm PDT #9711 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The actress who plays Peggy (Elizabeth Moss) was filming a movie at the end of MM

Something for the BBC, right?


sj - Jun 07, 2012 4:39:09 am PDT #9712 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Anyone here a fan of Rizzoli and Isles? If so, do you like them both? Equally? How did you feel about their rift...well, I guess it's effectively over now..?

Yes. Mostly. I didn't watch the premiere yet, but I'm re-watching last season's finale right now. Some of the characterization of the Rizzoli family as low class compared to the upper class Isles family bugs. For an example from the episode I am watching right now, Italians aren't exactly opposed to complicated espresso machines.


sj - Jun 07, 2012 5:00:11 am PDT #9713 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Another example:

Maura: "That would be even better with some pecorino romano cheese."

Rizzoli's mom: "We've got ketchup."


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2012 5:15:22 am PDT #9714 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm sorry I shot your father, but I'm not sorry that I shot Patty Doyle

That's pretty much the meat of it. I'm not sure at which point Maura forgot his rap sheet, but expecting your cop friend to do you a solid that involves not defending herself and other people...good luck with selling that point of view.

I couldn't tell if the text was asking me to take a side or not. Even though Rizzoli was being very brusque about it, I still think she had everything but romanticism on her side. And she was never prone to dressing things up.

sj are you saying that low class Italian familes would have/know pecorino romano cheese?


Sophia Brooks - Jun 07, 2012 5:17:15 am PDT #9715 of 11998
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

sj are you saying that low class Italian familes would have/know pecorino romano cheese?

I think that they at least would say they had parmesan, or mozzarella, or something not ketchup.