Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.

'Sleeper'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Liese S. - May 29, 2012 9:39:07 am PDT #9647 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, one of the things that Joan is, perhaps surprisingly, is pragmatic. Her use of her sexuality early in the show came from the same basic spot. She essentially tells Peggy, use what you've got, and that's something she believes.

I could see Joan looking at her options (if she had refused, and they lost the account, they would have resented her for it, whether or not it was deserved) and making a calculated choice. Since Pete had already violated her first objection (I don't want anyone knowing I was asked.) he put her in a position of having to deal with the request one way or the other, publicly.

So yeah, if she's looking at having lost respect/the illusion of respect already, the only potential gain is to get the partnership. And Lane was acting out of self-interest there, but he also gave Joan a gift, because I seriously doubt she would have asked for the partnership on her own initiative. I dislike that it went down that way, because it was yet another example of her lacking control/the illusion of control. However, I see it as in character for Joan to look at everything before her and make the choice she thought was most sustainable for her going forward.


sumi - May 29, 2012 9:46:28 am PDT #9648 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

I have to admit - I found that situation so appalling I'm just not sure what to say about it. Although, I do think that Joan's pragmatism is what lead her to do it.


Theodosia - May 29, 2012 9:50:20 am PDT #9649 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Everything Liese said, only better than I could.


le nubian - May 29, 2012 10:04:14 am PDT #9650 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Linda's column in Monkey See made some good points (like I said above). I think in my heart of hearts something didn't seem right about the ep. I could justify all of the actions with good reasons, and I could easily lob a counter like Linda has. Regardless, something about the ep didn't quite "FIT" for me. I thought the acting was pretty superb, and I was repulsed by every aspect of the Joan storyline, but I am not going to say this is my favorite ep in the series. Is this better than "The Suitcase?" "A man walked into an advertising agency?" "Shut the door, take a seat."

No.

Inadvertently, Linda brought up an issue that has been at the back of my mind for a bit with the show. As much as I love Mad Men, I think they have always had periodic issues (not as bad as some programs I could name) with consistency of characterizations. Don generally seems to be the most consistent (though some fans seem to be doubting him this season), after him I think Peggy - though I might argue that Peggy has been the most consistently portrayed all along.

The rest have these weird inconsistencies all throughout. So while I guess I kind of agree with Linda, I think eh, why get mad about it when we have had these issues here and there across time.


erikaj - May 29, 2012 10:51:31 am PDT #9651 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Not completely inconsistent, but in my view at least, painfully unsubtle.


Jesse - May 30, 2012 6:00:40 am PDT #9652 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, shit -- the fur Joan is wearing at the hotel is the one Roger gave her. I love Tom and Lorenzo's fashion analyses. [link]


DavidS - May 30, 2012 6:48:09 am PDT #9653 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I love Tom and Lorenzo's fashion analyses.

I bet they win Janie Bryant more Emmys.


§ ita § - May 30, 2012 7:13:07 am PDT #9654 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't watch Mad Men, but that's still an interesting analysis. I need to see one on something I watch to see if I buy it.

Often when I read fashion analyses on Supernatural, and I think they're mainly full of shit. But that costuming is so second nature that at least one of the stars seems to appear in public in the same clothes.


Amy - May 30, 2012 7:18:17 am PDT #9655 of 11998
Because books.

But that costuming is so second nature that at least one of the stars seems to appear in public in the same clothes.

Yeah, I think Sam's wardrobe is mostly based on Jared's at this point.


-t - May 30, 2012 8:01:46 am PDT #9656 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The Killing: seriously? Linden was going to marry her psychiatrist, quit her job, and drag her son to another state, and that was the healthy getting-her-life-together choice? Papa Larsen forgiving himself or whatever that was also super annoying. Sorry for trying to kill you a couple weeks ago, I fixed your porch light! Now I gotta go get a dog for my son the bird stomper.