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Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Theodosia - May 29, 2012 9:50:20 am PDT #9649 of 11998
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Everything Liese said, only better than I could.


le nubian - May 29, 2012 10:04:14 am PDT #9650 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Linda's column in Monkey See made some good points (like I said above). I think in my heart of hearts something didn't seem right about the ep. I could justify all of the actions with good reasons, and I could easily lob a counter like Linda has. Regardless, something about the ep didn't quite "FIT" for me. I thought the acting was pretty superb, and I was repulsed by every aspect of the Joan storyline, but I am not going to say this is my favorite ep in the series. Is this better than "The Suitcase?" "A man walked into an advertising agency?" "Shut the door, take a seat."

No.

Inadvertently, Linda brought up an issue that has been at the back of my mind for a bit with the show. As much as I love Mad Men, I think they have always had periodic issues (not as bad as some programs I could name) with consistency of characterizations. Don generally seems to be the most consistent (though some fans seem to be doubting him this season), after him I think Peggy - though I might argue that Peggy has been the most consistently portrayed all along.

The rest have these weird inconsistencies all throughout. So while I guess I kind of agree with Linda, I think eh, why get mad about it when we have had these issues here and there across time.


erikaj - May 29, 2012 10:51:31 am PDT #9651 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Not completely inconsistent, but in my view at least, painfully unsubtle.


Jesse - May 30, 2012 6:00:40 am PDT #9652 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, shit -- the fur Joan is wearing at the hotel is the one Roger gave her. I love Tom and Lorenzo's fashion analyses. [link]


DavidS - May 30, 2012 6:48:09 am PDT #9653 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I love Tom and Lorenzo's fashion analyses.

I bet they win Janie Bryant more Emmys.


§ ita § - May 30, 2012 7:13:07 am PDT #9654 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't watch Mad Men, but that's still an interesting analysis. I need to see one on something I watch to see if I buy it.

Often when I read fashion analyses on Supernatural, and I think they're mainly full of shit. But that costuming is so second nature that at least one of the stars seems to appear in public in the same clothes.


Amy - May 30, 2012 7:18:17 am PDT #9655 of 11998
Because books.

But that costuming is so second nature that at least one of the stars seems to appear in public in the same clothes.

Yeah, I think Sam's wardrobe is mostly based on Jared's at this point.


-t - May 30, 2012 8:01:46 am PDT #9656 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The Killing: seriously? Linden was going to marry her psychiatrist, quit her job, and drag her son to another state, and that was the healthy getting-her-life-together choice? Papa Larsen forgiving himself or whatever that was also super annoying. Sorry for trying to kill you a couple weeks ago, I fixed your porch light! Now I gotta go get a dog for my son the bird stomper.


erikaj - May 30, 2012 8:04:40 am PDT #9657 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

I have hardly ever felt as insulted by any show as by "The Killing" Maybe when Fonzie literally did the shark jump.


Jessica - May 30, 2012 9:37:05 am PDT #9658 of 11998
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A friend of mine interviewed Christina Hendricks for GQ - she had some interesting things to say:

[link]

I liked her answer to this question:

GQ: Hypothetically, had Joan known that Don was sticking up for her, do you think that would have made her reconsider?
Christina Hendricks: [Pause] I don't know. I don't know that it would have. But I think that it meant a lot that one person out of all those people—not even Roger!—actually cared. A lot of what last season was about in terms of Joan was getting no respect. These new guys were in the office and they were treating her so poorly, she's been there forever and she's running the ship and she's getting basically shit on every day at work. And here, this scenario comes up, and the father of her child doesn't even say, absolutely not. So at least one person, out of this entire crew, cared.

And also:

GQ: One of the most powerful moments in the episode was seeing Joan lock eyes with Don at the partner's meeting, both of them knowing what had happened. What was going through Joan's head at that instant?

Christina Hendricks: As I was playing it, it was sort of, "Don't judge me, I'm in this room," "What's done is done," and "Thank you," all at once. It's this sort of, here I am and let's move forward. And just, really owning it, and yet, we're not gonna discuss it.