I've been out of the abbey two days, I've beaten a lawman senseless, I've fallen in with criminals. I watched the captain shoot the man I swore to protect. And I'm not even sure if I think he was wrong.

Book ,'Serenity'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


EpicTangent - Oct 11, 2010 9:22:14 am PDT #7016 of 12003
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I love when a show finds the answer just in the nick of time...except it doesn't. And bad things ensue. It's so much more believable.

Totally. I'm so worried about the "the govt had all this info in advance and didn't do a thing to stop it" backlash that may hit our peeps.

Is it wrong that I am more worried about Kale than the nation's oil supply on Rubicon?

Hope not, 'cause me too.

Ooh, do you think the evil band of behind the scenes profit makers who were childhood friends will band together to take out Truxton, Julius Caesar style?

Please, please, please! Hate Truxton, sooo creepy (which I suppose speaks to the actor's skills, but... ::shivers:: ).

I think I need to stp letting my DVR catch Rubicon and watching it much later on Sunday nights...I keep having conspiracy theory dreams and waking up all stressed.


Typo Boy - Oct 11, 2010 8:15:49 pm PDT #7017 of 12003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Just caught up on Madmen. Holy crap, they are going to resolve all this in one episode? Or they are going leave it unresolved, start next season a year later, and never explain how they survived...


DavidS - Oct 11, 2010 8:22:10 pm PDT #7018 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

They've established that they can scrape by for six months, so it's entirely possible they end on a cliffhanger.

There's been no hint that Conrad Hilton is going to rush in with a saving account, or anything like that. So it might be a few marginal wins that help them squeak by.

As I was thinking about it last night after watching, this makes much more sense from Weiner's perspective. You don't want them fat and happy. There's way more drama to milk by seeing them struggle to establish themselves.

Anyway, I expect it won't be one big account but a bit of a rally to corral a couple mid sized ones which makes the difference.


Typo Boy - Oct 11, 2010 8:27:29 pm PDT #7019 of 12003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

As long as it starts six months later. What I would hate is to have it start a year later ...


DavidS - Oct 11, 2010 8:59:24 pm PDT #7020 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What I would hate is to have it start a year later ...

I don't think they'd make that narrative choice again after this season.

For one thing, Weiner's changed his tone in interviews and now it's starting to sound like he's got more than a five year plan for the show.

So instead of spacing it out every two years through the sixties he's thinking about following this story through the decade.

Also, he seems very committed to Kiernan Shipka and they can't jump ahead too much if they want to keep her in the cast.

Finally, I suspect that the title for the next episode hints at a possible big account, and it jibes with the general feel of this season.

Title for last episode: Tomorrowland.


le nubian - Oct 12, 2010 4:26:12 am PDT #7021 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Hayden,

Also, office gossip says that Peggy slept with Don to get where she is.

Excellent point. Because we know the "facts", I keep forgetting what the characters assume.


sj - Oct 12, 2010 6:45:01 am PDT #7022 of 12003
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Hec, are you assuming Disney, based on that title?


DavidS - Oct 12, 2010 7:08:10 am PDT #7023 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

sj, it could be a misdirect. But that account would definitely emphasize some key elements that Mad Men explores.

I mean it's go the fake Main Street USA at the heart of it. That's exactly what Don does. He exploits nostalgia and the way people want to imagine themselves.


le nubian - Oct 12, 2010 8:54:00 am PDT #7024 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

From Slate's discussion:

I think Faye didn't go out for a drink with Peggy because doing so would ruin the image that Peggy has of her. Yes, Faye is the smart, woman Ph.D. who pushes back at the partners, but she's also compromised those ideals for Don. Better to leave with her star intact. And while it's true that this season's theme has been the rise of women in the workplace, don't you think the show has painted a bleak picture of female office camaraderie? Faye rebuffs Peggy's earnest praise, Joan dresses down Peggy for her "help" in the elevator, and the secretaries are focus-group fodder.

What do you all think?

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Jon B. - Oct 12, 2010 9:27:53 am PDT #7025 of 12003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't think Faye particularly cares what Peggy thinks of her. Why should she?