So there is something I can do, besides scream like a woman?

Wesley ,'Chosen'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - Sep 20, 2010 1:14:56 pm PDT #6839 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

More Mad Men: This episode reminded me of two other episodes: "Maidenform" and "Guys Walks Into An Advertising Agency."

"Maidenform" because it checked in on the women characters and charted how they were dealing with their world/era, almost comparing their paths.

"Guy Walks..." because Ms. Blankenship's tragic demise was played for black comedy.

I was hoping that Joan could find a friendship with Roger but they got something else. Somebody on another board pointed out that Joan's off the pill, just as Greg is heading out. So...Mad Men is not above the high melodrama and I'm wondering if she'll have Roger's baby.

Joan with glasses immediately connected her to Miss Blankenship, suggesting one possible path for her. Though I don't think that will be the case. More likely she's a single working mom in the 70s.

I'm glad Kiernan Shipka seems to be growing up so quickly because she's an excellent actress and she needs to keep pace with the show's chronological jumps.

Looks like Megan will be Don's new secretary and maybe more.


Hayden - Sep 20, 2010 2:12:06 pm PDT #6840 of 12003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Joan with glasses

Just saying: yum.


quester - Sep 20, 2010 3:38:11 pm PDT #6841 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I have one trivial comment, I loved Joan in her flowered dress. She looked so much prettier than she does in the usual bold monotones.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 21, 2010 1:56:57 am PDT #6842 of 12003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think the exclusively white POV, while interesting artistically, and allowing us to have a glimpse of the world is troubling (to me) more for meta reasons. So for the last however long, art, and television, and moies, and the world already have an almost exclusively white (heterosexual male) POV. Like, almost every TV show and movie ever made. ANd there is this groundbreaking show, showing us.... the POV we already have.

And I think for deep-thinking tv wathing people, the POV actually can make us see the marginalization of the other characters, and I think that is the point, but for many people, it could easily be read as "Go white privelidged male, with your manpain!"


le nubian - Sep 21, 2010 4:02:50 am PDT #6843 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Here is a link to a blog post about race and "Mad Men." Those who are interested in discussing such things here, I am interested in your comments:

[link]

Here is a statement from the opening paragraph:

Ultimately, Mad Men is a meditation on the lie of whiteness, suburbia, American prosperity and consumerism. In exposing this true lie as such, Mad Men deftly engages questions of power and identity in ways that often go unnoticed by the casual viewer (and frankly by many professional reviewers who to my astonishment have not commented on the centrality of race to the show's melodrama).


smonster - Sep 21, 2010 4:13:29 am PDT #6844 of 12003
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Man, I don't watch Mad Men, but that may have to change. And that blog post you linked is awesome, le nubian.


sumi - Sep 21, 2010 4:56:27 am PDT #6845 of 12003
Art Crawl!!!

Mad Men seems to invite excellent discussion and essays.


sumi - Sep 21, 2010 5:12:55 am PDT #6846 of 12003
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with the actress who played Miss Blankenship.


DavidS - Sep 21, 2010 5:44:19 am PDT #6847 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

it could easily be read as "Go white privelidged male, with your manpain!"

I don't know how you can watch it without getting a constant reminder of This Is White Male Privilege At Work. They constantly expose the white men as slopping around in their privilege like pigs in shit, and they show how shitty it is.

That's exactly why characters we like indulge in all the casual racism and sexism, homophobia and antisemitism. They like the way the game plays because it's rigged in their favor and they never once stop to think about how it's rigged.


Jessica - Sep 21, 2010 5:47:27 am PDT #6848 of 12003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't know how you can watch it without getting a constant reminder of This Is White Male Privilege At Work.

Well, first you have to understand the concept of privilege and know that you have it. Many people do not.