Zoe: My man would never fall for that. Wash: Most of my head wishes I had.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Hayden - Sep 20, 2010 2:12:06 pm PDT #6840 of 12003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Joan with glasses

Just saying: yum.


quester - Sep 20, 2010 3:38:11 pm PDT #6841 of 12003
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I have one trivial comment, I loved Joan in her flowered dress. She looked so much prettier than she does in the usual bold monotones.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 21, 2010 1:56:57 am PDT #6842 of 12003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think the exclusively white POV, while interesting artistically, and allowing us to have a glimpse of the world is troubling (to me) more for meta reasons. So for the last however long, art, and television, and moies, and the world already have an almost exclusively white (heterosexual male) POV. Like, almost every TV show and movie ever made. ANd there is this groundbreaking show, showing us.... the POV we already have.

And I think for deep-thinking tv wathing people, the POV actually can make us see the marginalization of the other characters, and I think that is the point, but for many people, it could easily be read as "Go white privelidged male, with your manpain!"


le nubian - Sep 21, 2010 4:02:50 am PDT #6843 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Here is a link to a blog post about race and "Mad Men." Those who are interested in discussing such things here, I am interested in your comments:

[link]

Here is a statement from the opening paragraph:

Ultimately, Mad Men is a meditation on the lie of whiteness, suburbia, American prosperity and consumerism. In exposing this true lie as such, Mad Men deftly engages questions of power and identity in ways that often go unnoticed by the casual viewer (and frankly by many professional reviewers who to my astonishment have not commented on the centrality of race to the show's melodrama).


smonster - Sep 21, 2010 4:13:29 am PDT #6844 of 12003
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Man, I don't watch Mad Men, but that may have to change. And that blog post you linked is awesome, le nubian.


sumi - Sep 21, 2010 4:56:27 am PDT #6845 of 12003
Art Crawl!!!

Mad Men seems to invite excellent discussion and essays.


sumi - Sep 21, 2010 5:12:55 am PDT #6846 of 12003
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with the actress who played Miss Blankenship.


DavidS - Sep 21, 2010 5:44:19 am PDT #6847 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

it could easily be read as "Go white privelidged male, with your manpain!"

I don't know how you can watch it without getting a constant reminder of This Is White Male Privilege At Work. They constantly expose the white men as slopping around in their privilege like pigs in shit, and they show how shitty it is.

That's exactly why characters we like indulge in all the casual racism and sexism, homophobia and antisemitism. They like the way the game plays because it's rigged in their favor and they never once stop to think about how it's rigged.


Jessica - Sep 21, 2010 5:47:27 am PDT #6848 of 12003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't know how you can watch it without getting a constant reminder of This Is White Male Privilege At Work.

Well, first you have to understand the concept of privilege and know that you have it. Many people do not.


DavidS - Sep 21, 2010 5:51:02 am PDT #6849 of 12003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, first you have to understand the concept of privilege and know that you have it. Many people do not.

Whether you understand the concept or not, that's what the show is exhibiting. It doesn't show the white guys misbehaving as outliers or socially unacceptable. It shows that their dickishness (I use the word advisedly) is the culture. It also shows how the women - Joan in particular - both supports and suffers from that system. How everybody participates to maintain that status quo; that's pretty much this season's subplot about the friction between Peggy and Joan.