We're proud to say that the Class of '99 has the lowest mortality rate of any graduating class in Sunnydale history.

Jonathan ,'Touched'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


sumi - Oct 11, 2007 6:33:46 am PDT #647 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Alan Sepinwall raves about Mad Men.


JZ - Oct 11, 2007 9:12:55 am PDT #648 of 11998
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

That is a great, loving review, though I disagree pretty strongly with his take on Betty.


Wolfram - Oct 11, 2007 11:08:28 am PDT #649 of 11998
Visilurking

Which part, that she's willfully blind to Don's infidelity or that she has the emotional maturity of a 12 year old? I think the former is true and the latter is not so much that she is emotionally immature, but that she has taught herself to react to things in an emotionally stunted matter. I think a contemporary therapist would get to those issues much faster than the 1960's era Dr. Psychobabble.


erikaj - Oct 11, 2007 11:14:06 am PDT #650 of 11998
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Yeah, she's troubled, but has more going on than that. Although I can see why "other women are always jealous of me..." might make somebody think that.


Tom Scola - Oct 11, 2007 11:18:23 am PDT #651 of 11998
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

other women are always jealous of me...

That entire speech to her analyst was nothing but a series of projections.


erikaj - Oct 11, 2007 11:35:26 am PDT #652 of 11998
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Yeah. Not that I ever do that. But my friend does.


JZ - Oct 11, 2007 12:26:37 pm PDT #653 of 11998
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The emotional maturity of a 12-year-old, definitely. There are any number of moments and character threads to point to, but, just one example: I'm amazed that anyone could sit through the episode where she goes back into modeling and is then thrown back out of it, and the complexity of her choices, reactions, decisions to tell the truth and to lie about those choices and reactions -- and then sum her up with "emotional maturity of a 12-year-old."

There's so much more going on in that character the writers and actress have created, such a tangle of compromise and regret and hunger all framed and hemmed in by the period she's living in, its expectations for a proper daughter, wife, mother (exploring all of which are reasons why the show's creators chose to set it in this particular period in the first place). The reviewer's reaction to her sounds like he's placidly accepting that period's view of her, which seems like the complete opposite of (one of) the goals of the show.

I should stop thinking about it, as it's only going to get me more and more fruitlessly pissed off at what is an entirely positive and mostly thoughtful review.


sumi - Oct 11, 2007 8:34:10 pm PDT #654 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

First - the feed on tonight's Mad Men totally sucked. At least, on my tv - first the audio was out of synch with the video and then the picture started breaking up. It was weird.

Tonight Pete showed that he really cannot read a room. (Of course, we know what he didn't - that he was there as a legacy of sorts.)


sumi - Oct 11, 2007 8:36:15 pm PDT #655 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Well, not that Don didn't try to escape at first.


DavidS - Oct 11, 2007 9:01:41 pm PDT #656 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That was an intense episode.

And of course, now we know why Don's always looking at his lighter.