I could squeeze you until you popped like warm champagne, and you'd beg me to hurt you just a little bit more.

Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


erikaj - Oct 11, 2007 11:35:26 am PDT #652 of 11998
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Yeah. Not that I ever do that. But my friend does.


JZ - Oct 11, 2007 12:26:37 pm PDT #653 of 11998
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The emotional maturity of a 12-year-old, definitely. There are any number of moments and character threads to point to, but, just one example: I'm amazed that anyone could sit through the episode where she goes back into modeling and is then thrown back out of it, and the complexity of her choices, reactions, decisions to tell the truth and to lie about those choices and reactions -- and then sum her up with "emotional maturity of a 12-year-old."

There's so much more going on in that character the writers and actress have created, such a tangle of compromise and regret and hunger all framed and hemmed in by the period she's living in, its expectations for a proper daughter, wife, mother (exploring all of which are reasons why the show's creators chose to set it in this particular period in the first place). The reviewer's reaction to her sounds like he's placidly accepting that period's view of her, which seems like the complete opposite of (one of) the goals of the show.

I should stop thinking about it, as it's only going to get me more and more fruitlessly pissed off at what is an entirely positive and mostly thoughtful review.


sumi - Oct 11, 2007 8:34:10 pm PDT #654 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

First - the feed on tonight's Mad Men totally sucked. At least, on my tv - first the audio was out of synch with the video and then the picture started breaking up. It was weird.

Tonight Pete showed that he really cannot read a room. (Of course, we know what he didn't - that he was there as a legacy of sorts.)


sumi - Oct 11, 2007 8:36:15 pm PDT #655 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Well, not that Don didn't try to escape at first.


DavidS - Oct 11, 2007 9:01:41 pm PDT #656 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That was an intense episode.

And of course, now we know why Don's always looking at his lighter.


Liese S. - Oct 11, 2007 9:32:45 pm PDT #657 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Holy cow.

Good catch, David. I love attention to detail like that.

The whole thing was kind of difficult to watch. But in a good way.


sumi - Oct 12, 2007 4:15:58 am PDT #658 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah. Very intense and it's not even the season finale.


Wolfram - Oct 12, 2007 5:27:50 am PDT #659 of 11998
Visilurking

When Pete left the room, Cooper says to Don, "Keep an eye on that one. You never know where loyalty is born ." Strange turn of phrase to describer someone who just tried to do the opposite. Is this foreshadowing that Pete is going to become slavishly loyal when Don doesn't fire him? At least for a time?

I love the little character scenes in this episode, like the one with Joan and "Orson Welles" (memfault), and the one with the married glasses-guy and (memfault). (Sorry, I'm terrible with names.)


Liese S. - Oct 12, 2007 6:48:40 am PDT #660 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

like the one with Joan and "Orson Welles" (memfault)

Yeah, that was a fabulous scene.

Really great acting this episode. Lots of stuff conveyed by very little. Small facial expressions, small changes in posture.


erikaj - Oct 12, 2007 8:45:26 am PDT #661 of 11998
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

This show(and Don himself) have grown on me a lot.