Yes, and I didn't get that at all.
Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.
'Not Fade Away'
Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...
To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])
sumi - Aug 17, 2010 6:59:11 am PDT #6362 of 12003
Art Crawl!!!
-t - Aug 17, 2010 7:19:34 am PDT #6363 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Her wardrobe was sort of Palin-y
§ ita § - Aug 17, 2010 7:21:44 am PDT #6364 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Was it un-Rodham-Clintony? I mean, how many different ways can a female politician dress?
-t - Aug 17, 2010 7:28:05 am PDT #6365 of 12003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
To my eye, she looked Palin-y the same way all the Republican women currently campaigning look Palin-y.
le nubian - Aug 17, 2010 7:30:51 am PDT #6366 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I think there was a nod to Palin when her character was introduced. Yes, I think then the character departed from the real person, but I definitely think the first few words, etc. were not an accident.
§ ita § - Aug 17, 2010 7:34:42 am PDT #6367 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I definitely think the first few words, etc. were not an accident.
So you think John is lying about it? He's really not the type to bother. He'd totally take a proper jab at her if he wanted to.
In fact, he says the character is probably a Democrat.
Jon B. - Aug 17, 2010 7:35:13 am PDT #6368 of 12003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Wow, Palin never even crossed my mind.
le nubian - Aug 17, 2010 7:37:36 am PDT #6369 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ita,
what I'm saying is that perhaps it wasn't the director's or writer's intent, maybe it was the actor. Sometimes things happen that you don't intend.
If a lot of people are seeing a particular reference in a creative work - one that wasn't intended, maybe the reference got in there subconsciously?
§ ita § - Aug 17, 2010 7:43:35 am PDT #6370 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But the actor didn't choose the first words that you say were Palinesque. The writer did.
Neither of us can say what was done subconsciously, no one can. That's the magic of that position.
But they're being charged with making jabs at a Palin-analogue, and to me it looks like either an over or under-active imagination at work. If she'd had the accent, or worn the glasses, or been slaptastically dumb, but seriously? Articulate intelligent brunette in a suit? So rapidly disqualified from being her my head spins.
She never even crossed my mind either.
le nubian - Aug 17, 2010 7:51:25 am PDT #6371 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I don't really feel like passionately supporting my point of view on this because I'm not all that invested in this as an ISSUE, but when I saw the character, with the hair, the outfit, and snippets of her conversation, I thought there was a reference going on that to me seemed unmistakable.
As the episode went on, it of course isn't the case, but I thought that was just an in-joke of those on the crew: introduce a visual Palin reference and knock it down by having the character be relatively competent.
A question was raised about why people thought this might be a Palin reference, I responded as one perspective and why I thought a quick reference was made. I get that this wasn't intended.
I am not trolling for my point of view here.