Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.

Mal ,'The Message'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Laga - Jun 28, 2010 9:53:55 am PDT #5727 of 12003
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm not an expert, I've just done some reading, but I'm pretty sure you can't make someone forget that they've been hypnotized.


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2010 1:20:37 pm PDT #5728 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know the TV convention is that you can have them forget, but I know very little about real hypnosis.

On the shippery front, my heart went pitter pat when Parker cried during Hardison's solo, and when she went after him when he stormed out of the bar. I like this speed. I could go the entire season without a sex scene.

I'm not saying I want to. But I could.


Polter-Cow - Jun 28, 2010 1:26:03 pm PDT #5729 of 12003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

On the shippery front, my heart went pitter pat when Parker cried during Hardison's solo, and when she went after him when he stormed out of the bar. I like this speed. I could go the entire season without a sex scene.

Those were both good moments. Another was the exchange that went something like:

Nate: "Can you [break into the Steranko system]?"
Hardison: "[Are you listening? It's bonkers! Impossible! Insane! No way!]"
Nate: "No, I mean, for Parker, can you do it?"

Nate's observant.


le nubian - Jun 28, 2010 2:02:14 pm PDT #5730 of 12003
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

heh. he is observant, but you would have to be blind as a bat and not knowledgeable about human interactions at all to miss all the chemistry they are putting out there.


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2010 2:04:27 pm PDT #5731 of 12003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you would have to be blind as a bat and not knowledgeable about human interactions at all to miss all the chemistry they are putting out there

Go to John's blog and tell that to Anonymous! And Anonymous! Crazy people.

Someone else just complained that oh, no, now the African people have to be saved from their own government. But wasn't the guy in charge a good guy? They were making sure the bad guy didn't take over? Plus, white folk have had plenty corrupt politicking in the series so far. Hmmph.


megan walker - Jun 28, 2010 2:04:28 pm PDT #5732 of 12003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Nate: "Can you [break into the Steranko system]?"
Hardison: "[Are you listening? It's bonkers! Impossible! Insane! No way!]"
Nate: "No, I mean, for Parker, can you do it?"

Nate's observant.

I also thought there was a nice subtext there, that, since the security system adjusts to the person breaking in, Hardison could crack it by knowing her so well and how the system would adjust.


beekaytee - Jun 28, 2010 2:12:30 pm PDT #5733 of 12003
Compassionately intolerant

Can you really hypnotize someone without them realizing it happened?

Nope.

Nor can you make anyone forget what has happened.

The reason hypnosis works for surgeries and post traumatic stress is that the subject goes to such a relaxed place within their consciousness (note that I did not say subconscious) that they can choose to remove all the intellectual judgment around fear and pain. The body does not retain pain, but the mind can.

Even super-suggestible people do not do things they do not choose to do in the moment. That guy in the club clucks like a chicken because he no longer cares about being judged for it.


beekaytee - Jun 28, 2010 4:53:35 pm PDT #5734 of 12003
Compassionately intolerant

Having just finished the episode, the thing that tees me off is that Nate could have gotten Hardison to agree to the hypnosis so easily. That way, the 'science' would have been in tact, if not the 'I'm so nervous' shtick. I don't think the joke was worth it.

Otherwise, I really liked the episode. And Giancarlo! Nice to see him working.


Hayden - Jun 28, 2010 6:30:18 pm PDT #5735 of 12003
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

And Giancarlo! Nice to see him working.

I don't think you and Frank are watching Breaking Bad.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 28, 2010 6:33:02 pm PDT #5736 of 12003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't think you and Frank are watching Breaking Bad.

Sadly, no. That's one I'll need to catch up on.