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Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

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Vortex - Feb 23, 2010 8:18:43 pm PST #4426 of 11999
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I wanted to like In Plain Sight, but it irritated me that she was supposedly so good at her job, but her personal life was a mess. I hate that strong female characters always have to be obviously flawed in some way. I hear that changed later, but I was already so turned off.


DavidS - Feb 23, 2010 8:31:32 pm PST #4427 of 11999
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I hate that strong female characters always have to be obviously flawed in some way.

It's hard to write an interesting story about a character who has all their shit together. I mean, you could do one story that showed off their competence but in a continuing series it'd get dull in a hurry.

Drama's built on conflict, and it helps for the character to have internal as well as external conflicts to dramatize.


Morgana - Feb 23, 2010 8:41:51 pm PST #4428 of 11999
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I hate that strong female characters always have to be obviously flawed in some way. I hear that changed later, but I was already so turned off.

Fortunately they improved it some, but not nearly enough. Her mother and sister are, and I really do not use this term lightly, emotionally abusive. Truly. And I cannot for the life of me understand why this woman would tolerate having them leeching off of her emotionally, monetarily, or any other way. I know all the psychological underpinnings going on, and she feels responsible as the caretaker, and so on and so on, but if they hadn't cut down on the mother and sister's roles in the last season I would have dumped the show. I enjoy Mary and Marshall's interplay (I love Marshall madly) and Rafe is pretty cool. Even the improbably Marty Stu the writers dreamed up for the sister to date seems okay. If they keep her homelife down to a minimum it would be fine by me.


Cass - Feb 23, 2010 8:47:27 pm PST #4429 of 11999
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I didn't watch from the beginning and I might have missed eps, but she seemed to be portrayed as good at her job but having a wildly dysfunctional family. Things that she couldn't fix and people she couldn't quite cut off.

Which isn't to say they weren't playing the whole "strong female characters must be obviously flawed in some way" because they were. Just they did at least pay her the courtesy of it not being entirely her fault with her sister and mom.

They did screw around with the fiance though for a while. I think they got better.

I'll likely do another power watch at some point when I can plow though a bunch of eps at once.


Zenkitty - Feb 24, 2010 3:34:31 am PST #4430 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I liked IPS. I identified with Mary. Basically a strong, competent, smart woman, with a permanently screwed-up family. She's much more aggressive and bitchier than me, but I could easily have turned out that way. Inside I'm that way.

I do hope they don't mess the show up.


Zenkitty - Feb 24, 2010 3:37:26 am PST #4431 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Vortex - Feb 24, 2010 5:28:30 am PST #4432 of 11999
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's hard to write an interesting story about a character who has all their shit together. I mean, you could do one story that showed off their competence but in a continuing series it'd get dull in a hurry.

I don't think so. You don't have to have stereotypical inherent flaws to have an interesting character. Look at Peter Burke in White Collar. Good at his job, great wife/marriage, smart guy, hidden depths. That's never going to get old.

I hated shit like the running "gag" that her car always broke down.


Zenkitty - Feb 24, 2010 5:38:06 am PST #4433 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I hated shit like the running "gag" that her car always broke down.

I forgot about that. I thought that was ridiculous - she makes a decent salary, if she can afford that nice house with room for her mom and sister too; she can't buy a new car? Especially since being able to get places reliably was an important part of her job.


Lee - Feb 24, 2010 5:46:53 am PST #4434 of 11999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

The one bit from last night's WC that I didn't get was Peter coming over to Neal's with a single piece of pizza in his hand, and then offering it to Mozzie.

It seemed so random that it threw me out of the scene, and there was never any pay off, like "no, this can't be the real bottle, because it has pizza grease on it."


brenda m - Feb 24, 2010 5:57:07 am PST #4435 of 11999
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Was last night new? Crap.