Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


brenda m - Feb 24, 2010 5:57:07 am PST #4435 of 11999
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Was last night new? Crap.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2010 6:20:08 am PST #4436 of 11999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You don't have to have stereotypical inherent flaws to have an interesting character.

Peter's absolutely who I was thinking of to disagree with the point. Sure, it's fun to have a douchebag like Nathan Ford, but you don't have to go there. And for women it's too often framed like being kickass means you have to give up something (note, I don't watch IPS, so I have no opinion on the specifics) to be able to compete in a predominantly masculine world. Whereas the male protagonists often display nothing worse than obsessiveness and a bit of situational tone-deafness.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 24, 2010 6:27:58 am PST #4437 of 11999
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

See "car always breaking down" equals "bad luck" to me, which seems gender-neutral, but I guess it would matter on how they played it. I've not seen the show.


Zenkitty - Feb 24, 2010 6:30:57 am PST #4438 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

They made it seem like her car was a POS, as opposed to it just being a run of bad luck.


Vortex - Feb 24, 2010 6:41:04 am PST #4439 of 11999
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I forgot about that. I thought that was ridiculous - she makes a decent salary, if she can afford that nice house with room for her mom and sister too; she can't buy a new car? Especially since being able to get places reliably was an important part of her job.

And the kicker is that as a US Marshal, THEY GIVE YOU A GOVERNMENT CAR!! I can't tell you how many marshals I knew who didn't even have jobs where they really needed to be running around who had cars.


Zenkitty - Feb 24, 2010 6:55:13 am PST #4440 of 11999
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Writer research fail. Can I be a US Marshal? Oh, wait. No, I can't. The government doesn't let people like me have badges!


Vortex - Feb 24, 2010 7:10:44 am PST #4441 of 11999
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Writer research fail

That's my point. I don't see it as a research fail, I think that it was a deliberate choice in order to give her a flaw.


brenda m - Feb 24, 2010 7:15:17 am PST #4442 of 11999
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't see it as a research fail, I think that it was a deliberate choice in order to give her a flaw.

Yeah. The breakdowns aren't played as bad luck - it's her having this crappy car and refusing to do anything about it to demonstrate stubborness or lack or control or something in a way that's really not necessary.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2010 7:28:20 am PST #4443 of 11999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Leverage S2 DVDs come out May 25th, and here are the special features:

  • Audio commentary on every episode
  • The Creators of Leverage Q&A
  • John Rogers Set Tour
  • "Behind the Boom" Featurette
  • “The Hand Job” Spoof Video
  • Andy Lange Music Featurette
  • Season 2 Wrap Party Gag Reel


Cass - Feb 24, 2010 7:34:08 am PST #4444 of 11999
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I do love a good gag reel. Well, I do when they don't send me running away with a bad case of the Motts.