You all gonna be here when I wake up?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


amych - Aug 31, 2007 10:21:49 am PDT #441 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Well, we definitely haven't seen the mom, even in memory, right?

Good point -- but I'd say there's passing going on either way; he's desperate to not have people find out that he doesn't (in that world, of course) rate the social position he appears to have. In other words, I agree about your read on the swallowing G's comment.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2007 10:26:31 am PDT #442 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, we definitely haven't seen the mom, even in memory, right?

I think that his mom died and his dad remarried. When he was talking to his brother, he talked about how Adam's mother took great pains to remind him that she was not his mother.


askye - Aug 31, 2007 10:50:10 am PDT #443 of 11998
Thrive to spite them

The only problem I have with this, is the flashback Don had when he fell down the stairs on Mother's Day. Unless that flashback wasn't accurate for some reason, the family (to me) looked rather well off and not the kind of childhood I'd be ashamed of. Except for the hair cut.


sumi - Aug 31, 2007 10:56:01 am PDT #444 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Well, perhaps his family's circumstance's changed after that time.


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 11:05:29 am PDT #445 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It definitely wasn't the sort of warm supportive family one might dream of for oneself, though. But there must have been more than that to incur the sort of vitriol Don voiced about Adam's mother.

The mom is definitely absent in his past. And it would take an odd circumstance, wouldn't it, to place the child with his father if it had just been a split? So dead, insane, illegitimate, or the wrong race. And now that I think about it, even illegitimate would probably place the kid with the mom so that dad could ignore him, eh?

I wonder about class status. We tend to pretend we don't have classes in America, but we definitely do, and we definitely did then.


Tom Scola - Aug 31, 2007 11:12:38 am PDT #446 of 11998
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

We tend to pretend we don't have classes in America, but we definitely do, and we definitely did then.

What was Pete's salary? $75 a week or something? And yet, untouchable because of his Mother's maiden name.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2007 11:14:05 am PDT #447 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Unless that flashback wasn't accurate for some reason, the family (to me) looked rather well off and not the kind of childhood I'd be ashamed of. Except for the hair cut.

Maybe his mother worked for the family? I definitely get the impression that Don grew up working class.


askye - Aug 31, 2007 11:16:56 am PDT #448 of 11998
Thrive to spite them

I saw the flashback as Don being introduced to his new half brother. How old is Don? When do we think he was born?

There was a fairly high mortality rate at the time (if I remember correctly) it wouldn't have been uncommon for a mother and child to die in childbirth, or his mother could have died from some illness. It's not a far stretch from that for Don's father to favor his new wife and son over Don. Especially if he considered Don to be a "difficult" child after his mother's death and thus be distant to him.

Or Don could have been sent to live with relatives until his father remarried and had made a "suitable" home for him. It wasn't uncommon for children to be sent to live with relatives. Both my parents had cousins live with them for various reasons.


amych - Aug 31, 2007 11:23:05 am PDT #449 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I definitely get the impression that Don grew up working class.

Yes. The fact that Adam is a janitor points to this as well.


megan walker - Aug 31, 2007 11:37:23 am PDT #450 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Ahh, thanks. So the two are partners, not Boss & Underling.

I'm now 3 episodes behind, but I think it's Boss and Former Boss/Partner's Son. In the second or third episode when Don and Roger get called in to Big Boss's office, they reference a picture where it seems that Roger is a little kid on someone's lap so I took it to be that Roger's father founded firm with Big Boss.

Also, I'm loving their attention to detail. Peter's "old money" family vacationing on Fishers Island is spot on in and of itself, but the fact that that's where the the Bethelem Steel heir's mansion actually was (way back when) is just perfect.