You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 9:46:35 am PDT #437 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Do we know Roger's connection with the building?

He was introduced as the Biggest!Boss' partner this episode, wasn't he?


Jon B. - Aug 31, 2007 10:00:04 am PDT #438 of 11998
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The company's name is Sterling Cooper. Roger is the Sterling.

Ahh, thanks. So the two are partners, not Boss & Underling.


amych - Aug 31, 2007 10:09:30 am PDT #439 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

For a Gentile, maybe.

Nah, Dick Whitman isn't a Jew -- he's a redneck, passing for educated and middle-class.


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 10:12:06 am PDT #440 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Well, we definitely haven't seen the mom, even in memory, right?

I think at least part of his revenge was for Roger's "swallowing your g's" offhand comment.


amych - Aug 31, 2007 10:21:49 am PDT #441 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Well, we definitely haven't seen the mom, even in memory, right?

Good point -- but I'd say there's passing going on either way; he's desperate to not have people find out that he doesn't (in that world, of course) rate the social position he appears to have. In other words, I agree about your read on the swallowing G's comment.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2007 10:26:31 am PDT #442 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, we definitely haven't seen the mom, even in memory, right?

I think that his mom died and his dad remarried. When he was talking to his brother, he talked about how Adam's mother took great pains to remind him that she was not his mother.


askye - Aug 31, 2007 10:50:10 am PDT #443 of 11998
Thrive to spite them

The only problem I have with this, is the flashback Don had when he fell down the stairs on Mother's Day. Unless that flashback wasn't accurate for some reason, the family (to me) looked rather well off and not the kind of childhood I'd be ashamed of. Except for the hair cut.


sumi - Aug 31, 2007 10:56:01 am PDT #444 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Well, perhaps his family's circumstance's changed after that time.


Liese S. - Aug 31, 2007 11:05:29 am PDT #445 of 11998
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It definitely wasn't the sort of warm supportive family one might dream of for oneself, though. But there must have been more than that to incur the sort of vitriol Don voiced about Adam's mother.

The mom is definitely absent in his past. And it would take an odd circumstance, wouldn't it, to place the child with his father if it had just been a split? So dead, insane, illegitimate, or the wrong race. And now that I think about it, even illegitimate would probably place the kid with the mom so that dad could ignore him, eh?

I wonder about class status. We tend to pretend we don't have classes in America, but we definitely do, and we definitely did then.


Tom Scola - Aug 31, 2007 11:12:38 am PDT #446 of 11998
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

We tend to pretend we don't have classes in America, but we definitely do, and we definitely did then.

What was Pete's salary? $75 a week or something? And yet, untouchable because of his Mother's maiden name.