Does anybody else miss the Mayor? 'I just want to be a big snake.'

Xander ,'End of Days'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Lee - May 11, 2009 12:13:40 pm PDT #2265 of 11998
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I thought that at first too, P-C, but going back and rewatching, there are signs of it in the pilot and first couple of eps as well.


Vortex - May 11, 2009 12:19:05 pm PDT #2266 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Frankly, that's often the way that you see alcoholism. You don't really notice how much someone is drinking for a while, and then you suddenly think. Wow, Nate's drinking a lot.


megan walker - May 11, 2009 12:21:51 pm PDT #2267 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Yeah, but given the whole vibe of the show, I wish it had been more "Nick & Nora" and less of a "thing".


Polter-Cow - May 11, 2009 12:25:59 pm PDT #2268 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I agree, megan. They played it a little for laughs (loved Parker's assertion that he was getting creepier), but when it got Very Serious, it didn't feel right.


Vortex - May 11, 2009 12:41:40 pm PDT #2269 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, but given the whole vibe of the show, I wish it had been more "Nick & Nora" and less of a "thing".

yeah, that would have been nice, but we don't allow that anymore.


§ ita § - May 11, 2009 1:29:14 pm PDT #2270 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nate drinks not just in a few episodes, but in every single one.


sj - May 11, 2009 1:32:13 pm PDT #2271 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I liked the way the alcoholism was done, and it made sense to me that every victory for the team might make his drinking just a little bit work. Nate can fix everyone else's life, but his son is still gone.


-t - May 11, 2009 1:53:46 pm PDT #2272 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It's a nice note for his character. If he can have a drink in his hand, he does. And even when it's demonstrated that it's a problem, physically, at least, he goes right on like he has been, same functional brokenness, not ready to fix. I like it.


§ ita § - May 11, 2009 2:09:51 pm PDT #2273 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

John Rogers said that as a TV writer he was very qualified to write a functional drinker. I was surprised to realise he'd been drinking every episode--just another way rewatching the entire season paid off. I can't say it's the show's fault I didn't notice the first time round.


megan walker - May 11, 2009 2:19:27 pm PDT #2274 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

John Rogers said that as a TV writer he was very qualified to write a functional drinker. I was surprised to realise he'd been drinking every episode--just another way rewatching the entire season paid off. I can't say it's the show's fault I didn't notice the first time round.

Sort-of how Rusty is always eating in Ocean's 11.