Eggs. The living legend needs eggs. Or maybe another milk.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2009 6:06:11 pm PDT #2201 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd argue against Leverage being a procedural. As for Saving Grace, it's a pretty awful example of the genre--their mysteries, when they have them, are weak as all hell. And we could fit it into Boxed Set too, couldn't we?

But what you're doing, JC, is ranking the Procedural thread over the Cable Drama thread, and that's subjective--I rank Boxed Set first, so supernatural procedurals fit very nicely there for me.

Leverage and Damages have no weekly mysteries to solve in the hour--problems, for Leverage, and nothing of the sort for Damages.


brenda m - Apr 17, 2009 6:10:14 pm PDT #2202 of 11998
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'd add that part of the reason for separating out Cable Drama is to leave the Procedurals thread safer territory for people who don't have cable or prefer to wait for DVD. So there's that.

Overall, though, while I like making it easier to find where a show has landed, they're going to land one by one where they seem to fit for the people in those threads. I don't think we need a hard and fast rule here.


megan walker - Apr 17, 2009 7:00:59 pm PDT #2203 of 11998
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The current header for Procedurals says it's for shows where the primary objective is to figure out the case. Unless that is changed, I'd say it doesn't fit Leverage.


§ ita § - Apr 17, 2009 7:40:19 pm PDT #2204 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have no idea what goes on in an episode of In Plain Sight, but I've developed a wee crush on Fred Weller (who's Paul Weller's cousin, and I can totally see the resemblance) from two disparate L&O:CI appearances--in one he plays a not too bright horse trainer, and in the other a severely entitled multi-millionaire.

Anyone watch the show? Worth pursuing a crush to watch it?

God, Leverage can't come back soon enough, and Life and T:SCC cannot be cancelled. The Mentalist and Grey's Anatomy are not going get me through the nights.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 17, 2009 8:12:50 pm PDT #2205 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Cable Drama is all about it being CABLE drama of any stripe. IOW, not network television.


sj - Apr 17, 2009 11:37:29 pm PDT #2206 of 11998
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Mad Men also gets a good amount of discussion in here when it is airing.


erikaj - Apr 18, 2009 9:36:48 am PDT #2207 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

Cable Drama has different seasons than network.


beekaytee - Apr 20, 2009 5:48:08 pm PDT #2208 of 11998
Compassionately intolerant

I really like In Plain Sight, ita. The characters...all of them, are multidimensional and compelling. I really like the writing.

Fred Weller is a joy to watch. And Leslie Ann Warren is both gorgeous and transfixing in a...how can she be so beautiful and yet so incredibly vexing...sort of way. You really feel what the characters are about.


le nubian - Apr 20, 2009 6:03:09 pm PDT #2209 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I like "In plain sight" generally, but the lead character's sister and mother drive me up a tree. I don't know how I can watch the show when I hate them so vehemently. I started watching the show and saw the mother and sister right off the bat, and I had to come back to it.

I'll try the show again, but they need to be off my tv.


Vortex - Apr 20, 2009 6:59:15 pm PDT #2210 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm with you, LeN.