I am intrigued by Kill Point because of its stars, but I too wonder how they can sustain that.

SA, can you believe that Tommy can't recognize depression when he sees it? And didn't they go to a counselor? Shouldn't the counselor have realized that something was up?

The counselor, like, laughed them out of the office. It was one of those tragi-comic moments. Tommy, though, is so damn self-centered he wouldn't recognize anything even if it slapped him in the face.

I will say that it tickled me that Glenn Close's husband was played by Michael Nouri because he is such a tv drama guy and she is a Movie Star.

LOVED this.

I think The Kill Point is only a miniseries, I found this press release on the Futon Critic ( [link] that describes it as a "eight hour dramatic event" and the pilot was 2 hours so I guess there are only 6 more hours of the show.

If it's successful maybe Spike TV could do bring back Donnie Wahlberg's character and have another "dramatic event" with a different scenario.

I'm glad I recorded it so I could fast forward through all those relentless "Spike TV is for MEN! MEN! Manly Men, I tell you! Look! Boobs! And fights! Manly Men watch Spike!"

• so* want a "nancy-boy" hair-gel promo for SpikeTV...

Gotcha. That sounds a lot better - I'll definitely keep watching then.

I'm glad I recorded it so I could fast forward through all those relentless "Spike TV is for MEN! MEN! Manly Men, I tell you! Look! Boobs! And fights! Manly Men watch Spike!"

I used to watch Blade on Spike, and had to do the same thing with the commercials. Spike, not so big with courting the female viewers.... in fact, they cancelled Blade because it didn't attract enough male viewers. If I recall correctly it attracted sufficient female viewers, but they didn't want us. The bastards ended it on a cliffhanger, too.

Some people over at TWOP are convinced that's why Dresden Files hasn't been picked up.

If I recall correctly it attracted sufficient female viewers, but they didn't want us.

yeah, cause we don't buy stupid shit just 'cause TV tells us to. Not that all men do, but their target 18-24 demographic is much more likely to say "dude! that's so cool" and buy random shit.

I was thinking about this lately. You know where my actual buying choices originate? A) Friends talking about the product and B) the intarwebs. If there really were an insidious marketing plan where people were paid to talk up a product like William Gibson's, I would totally fall for it. If it were you people who were being paid. Hey, are you people being paid?

But Tivo, Vonage, All-Clad, the Harmony (I didn't buy one, but I talked it up to a friend who bought one). Those were all heavily influenced by conversations with friends here and elsewhere. Appliances & major purchases like that are all from consumer research places like Consumer Reports.

The only thing I can think of that I bought off of tv was the Billy Mays Hercules Hook! Which is awesome.

I don't know. I just think if I were an advertiser, I might spend some more time on making my web presence friendly, navigable and searchable, 'cause that's where all my purchase decisions are being made.