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'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Barb - Oct 20, 2008 3:19:58 am PDT #1653 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

Don gets to be himself. I think it's really valuable too, to have seen that Christmas scene between him and Anna-- his hope and excitement talking about Betty. He really did like her, even if as he was telling Anna about her, he was ticking off her attributes like they were items on a shopping list.

That's the first time we've seen Peggy smoking.

Yep, I caught that too, and it was interesting that she was alone, that she'd pilfered a cigarette from one of the secretary's desks, late at night, clearly working on the campaign. (Lewis noted, btw, that he thinks that throwaway about the mom in the campaign image looking familiar is something that's going to come back again.)

And then, when she had her conversation with Pete-- that was the first time we've seen her drinking that wasn't at a party, wasn't it? And again, alone. She's in a unique place, our Peggy-- and in some ways, she's turning into Don.


SailAweigh - Oct 20, 2008 4:08:20 am PDT #1654 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think she's got aa bit of hero worship going on, so it's not too surprising she's doing all that. I mean if Sally can, why can't Peggy? Kids do emulate their parents.

And young, happy Don just about broke me. His journey has not been a happy one. He just keeps cutting himself off from more and more people. I almost wish he'd stay in California, but then we'd have no excuse to call the show Mad Men and/or we'd lose the most interesting character.

I can't wait to see how Don reacts to having to report to Duck. Although, I've got this nasty evil thought that after the merger, Palmer, Powell, Whatever is going to can Duck. After all, if he sold one company out, who's to say he wouldn't do it again?


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 20, 2008 4:18:18 am PDT #1655 of 11998
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How exactly do mergers like that work, anyway? Does Don get a 12.5% cut of the merger's value in the purchasing company's stock, or a cash buyout even without agreeing to sell his shares, or what?


sumi - Oct 20, 2008 4:20:05 am PDT #1656 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Sail - I bet you're right about Duck. That British company isn't going to trust him.


SailAweigh - Oct 20, 2008 4:20:38 am PDT #1657 of 11998
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Good question. I'm guessing since the majority voted for the stock buyout that Don's stuck with the same thing.


sumi - Oct 20, 2008 4:20:39 am PDT #1658 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Oops.


Barb - Oct 20, 2008 4:26:10 am PDT #1659 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

Another little piece of the puzzle that is Don, that I found fascinating, was his obvious love for cars. Which, of course, goes back to when Anna found him and he was selling cars. Makes one wonder how he got from selling cars to selling ads.

Ah well, flashback for another season.

And who else teared up slightly when Anna said, "He wanted to marry my sister-- she looks just like me but with two good legs."


sumi - Oct 20, 2008 4:30:03 am PDT #1660 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Burn Notice and Psych have been renewed!

Who played Anna - she was excellent.

It's sad that Don is relaxed with almost every woman that isn't Betty.


Barb - Oct 20, 2008 4:36:01 am PDT #1661 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

Melinda Page Hamilton


Barb - Oct 20, 2008 4:43:55 am PDT #1662 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

Interesting post in Mad Men Talk [link] about all the of the symbolism inherent in the episode. Some of it seems like it's stretching a bit, but the bit about the Popsicle mom looking like a priest handing out Communion certainly could be plausible. Peggy did say if there was anything the Catholic church knew how to do, it was sell and the symbolism of a mother handing out the popsicles like Communion certain jibes with Peggy's emerging place in the agency-- that of a woman taking on a traditionally male role.

Timewise, this is really interesting, since we're about to head into the time period for the Second Vatican Council- if memory serves, they first convened in 1963 and the first results were implemented in late '64.

However, this also raises a really interesting question-- how are the new British bosses, if indeed this buyout does go through, going to take to a female copywriter? Were the Brits more progressive than Americans with respect to women in the workforce in that time period or was it somewhat similar?