Interesting post in Mad Men Talk [link] about all the of the symbolism inherent in the episode. Some of it seems like it's stretching a bit, but the bit about the Popsicle mom looking like a priest handing out Communion certainly could be plausible. Peggy did say if there was anything the Catholic church knew how to do, it was sell and the symbolism of a mother handing out the popsicles like Communion certain jibes with Peggy's emerging place in the agency-- that of a woman taking on a traditionally male role.
Timewise, this is really interesting, since we're about to head into the time period for the Second Vatican Council- if memory serves, they first convened in 1963 and the first results were implemented in late '64.
However, this also raises a really interesting question-- how are the new British bosses, if indeed this buyout does go through, going to take to a female copywriter? Were the Brits more progressive than Americans with respect to women in the workforce in that time period or was it somewhat similar?
Twoppers are calling the Popsicle mom something like "Our Lady of the Popsicle."
if memory serves, they first convened in 1963
October 11, 1962. I swear, this show has turned me into Rain Man.
October 11, 1962. I swear, this show has turned me into Rain Man.
Ha! I was thinking early '63, so I wasn't too far off. And I hear ya on the Rain Man thing-- last night's Cold Case there was a snippet of music on in the background and I absent-mindedly said, "Yvonne Elliman, 'If I Can't Have You' from the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack and did you know that she was Mary in JC Superstar?" and my husband just looked at me like I was an alien.
Barb, I was concerned about the status of Peggy's position too.
to have seen that Christmas scene between him and Anna-- his hope and excitement talking about Betty.
One question though, if he'd been to the house before, why did he have to write the address down in the book and then rip out our hearts the page? (probably the same reason that he didn't just write it down in the little book)
Were the Brits more progressive than Americans with respect to women in the workforce in that time period or was it somewhat similar?
God, no! When I worked for the Brits in the early 90's, they still thought that it was appropriate to praise me by saying "good girl!"
Joan's awesome...don't get all the haters.
Of course, redhaired women shift my Kinsey score, but still...hate the thought of her marrying Dr. Date Rape.
Somehow it was worse that it was sexy, confident Joan than say, Betty.
I so wanted her to be like Buffy and kick Dr. Greedy in his 'nads. For a second, I thought she would, and then...sigh.
Although the saddest moment was probably the flashback of Don talking about loving Betty's laugh, considering the anxious, tightly-wound, no-sense-of-humor, Mrs. Draper we usually see.
I still think Roger Sterling is sexy...I hate myself for it, too.Because he's also a deluded old bastard. But that helps me feel better about the occasional dirty thoughts about Don.(Windblown is a VERY good look for him, imo)
Hec, I didn't know about the Piper Laurie movie but the limping Mrs. Draper also made me think of Tony Soprano and Svetlana the amputee.
On Christina: "In high school, she was a goth kid with purple hair and black lipstick who dreamed of being a rock star."
I want to see that picture.
