I was also so disappointed for Joan. I really thought she'd found her new niche. I guess if figures that Harry was oblivious. (I bet the new guy won't be half as good at the job as Joan was.)

And Betty. Wow - she really is losing it.

I also watched the first two episodes of MI-5 season 5: yikes.

I will be returning the disks ASAP so I can get the next one soonest. Need to check to see if I can add season 6 to my queue yet.

The writers have been just a little more 2x4 in the last couple of episodes than they normally are (by their standards, at any rate). But with Joan's fiancé telling her all she needed to do was sit around watching the shows with bon-bons as opposed to actually, you know, reading had to sting and of course, the shot at the end of her rubbing the marks from her bra. However, I will say, it was an interesting contrast, seeing her at home with the guy-- her demeanor was far more Betty-ish, than the in-control Joan we're accustomed to seeing in the office setting.

You get the impression that Roger, while still a total dog, at least respects Joan as much as he's able to respect any woman.

her demeanor was far more Betty-ish, than the in-control Joan we're accustomed to seeing in the office setting.

oh yes. That "aren't you going to get me a glass of water?" bit was classic.

Yes, and her NON-REACTION to it- like that was okay.

you know, my Beau was watching the ep and when he saw how Joan was acting with her fiance, he yelled out: "I don't like this! I don't like this!" over and over.

I didn't like it either, but I laughed at how strong his reaction was. Apparently he likes the "in control" Joan.

Yes, and her NON-REACTION to it- like that was okay.

not just that it was okay, but that she had been remiss.

(side note: why is my spellcheck giving me a redline for "okay")

Didn't it look like Joan had scratch marks, not just strap marks?

I think that I felt for Betty more in this episode than I ever had. She had Don by the shorthairs, and he was just so belittling. Any wonder she feels crazy.

Didn't it look like Joan had scratch marks, not just strap marks?

Yeah, I thought so.

I think that I felt for Betty more in this episode than I ever had.

Yeah, seriously. This show is so sad.

For serious! This was a total downer episode.

I really hurt for Betty. And I can't believe Don baldfaced it. I don't think he realizes he's having any effect on her in his attempt to protect himself.

And it occurred to me that since he's living a lie entirely, he must feel comfortable with lying. It must not seem like there's a line to draw with lying to Betty about his life and lying to her about his affairs.

And, oh, my Joan! I liked seeing her more relaxed at home, but it was strange to cast her back into the societal norms. But it was heartbreaking to see her constantly swallowing everything, when she's so competent.

And she would be damn good in television and they're stupid not to realize it. She was so savvy with picking up on what was appealing and what wasn't in the scripts.

It was a very Buffista moment for me with her reading; she went total fangirl, but knew how to use it. And, as usual, having more than a nodding acquaintance with popular culture is looked down on.