But? There's always a but. When this is over, can we have a big 'but' moratorium?

Fred ,'Smile Time'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


DavidS - Aug 25, 2008 9:33:27 am PDT #1232 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Huh. The actress that plays Bobbie was Jim Gordon's wife in The Dark Knight.

The new secretary, Jane Siegel, is played by Peyton List. I recognized her but can't place her from her IMDB listings (which include roles on One Tree Hill, Smallville and a bunch of soaps).


Barb - Aug 25, 2008 9:38:21 am PDT #1233 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

That scene where Pete ordered Trudy back was exactly what prompted that description.

And this is one of those things that I was musing on, earlier today-- I never got the sense of Pete being completely convincing in the authoritarian role. It's almost as if he and more peripherally, Trudy, are playacting at what they think their roles should be. Whereas Don is very much comfortable in his skin as an authority figure-- he falls into the role of command very naturally, which is why it's interesting to see his control and power (at least, the veneer of it) gradually slipping away. (i.e. the accident, the salt, just off the top of my head.)

Dear Mad Men Writers, I love you and would like to have your babies. Love, Jess

Lines up behind Jess to have little Mad Men Writer Babies


Jessica - Aug 25, 2008 9:40:01 am PDT #1234 of 11998
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I never got the sense of Pete being completely convincing in the authoritarian role. It's almost as if he and more peripherally, Trudy, are playacting at what they think their roles should be

Yes!! So much this.


DavidS - Aug 25, 2008 9:45:32 am PDT #1235 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I never got the sense of Pete being completely convincing in the authoritarian role. It's almost as if he and more peripherally, Trudy, are playacting at what they think their roles should be

I concur.


le nubian - Aug 25, 2008 10:03:18 am PDT #1236 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I never got the sense of Pete being completely convincing in the authoritarian role. It's almost as if he and more peripherally, Trudy, are playacting at what they think their roles should be.

I think that's right, tho Pete really is an ass. He ain't playacting that.


amych - Aug 25, 2008 10:10:03 am PDT #1237 of 11998
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oh, Pete's assiness is genuine -- no doubt there.

I haven't watched the ep yet (and I CAN'T WAIT. STOOPID WORK.), but all this talk of Pete and authority keeps making me think of his hunting fantasy last year. It was creepy and bloody, yes, but it was creepy bloody kids' make-believe.


DavidS - Aug 25, 2008 10:18:08 am PDT #1238 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but all this talk of Pete and authority keeps making me think of his hunting fantasy last year. It was creepy and bloody, yes, but it was creepy bloody kids' make-believe.

Pete's choice of stroke magazine was also creepy. A men's magazine with a woman strung up in a torture/bondage scenario common to that kind of mag.

eta: Hmm, some blog comment says it was a cover story on Pearl Harbor. Still, an odd choice for sperm donation.

They really need to clarify the situation with Peggy's baby and Anita.

Did Anita also have a baby? Are there two kids? Was Anita faking the pregnancy to cover for Peggy? Did Anita's baby die and there's just one baby? Wha?


Barb - Aug 25, 2008 10:21:06 am PDT #1239 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

Did Anita's baby die and there's just one baby? Wha?

This is what I'm betting on-- it would just add another delicious layer of resentment for Anita. Of course, knowing this show, it's something that's even more out there, such as Anita's baby perhaps being born with a birth defect or with Down's and being institutionalized, so Anita's passing Peggy's healthy baby off as her own. I mean, can you imagine? The bad girl having the perfect baby while the good daughter has one that's "wrong"?


le nubian - Aug 25, 2008 10:41:16 am PDT #1240 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

but there are two (maybe more - like three?) youngsters in her sister's house. are you saying that one is too old to be the one her sister was pregnant with?


Jessica - Aug 25, 2008 10:51:47 am PDT #1241 of 11998
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

There are 2 older kids and 1 toddler in Anita's household (that we've seen). If the toddler is Peggy's, there should also be a younger baby, but we've never seen him/her.