Angel: How're you feeling? Faith: Like I did mushrooms and got eaten by a bear.

'A Hole in the World'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


erikaj - Aug 18, 2008 8:01:21 pm PDT #1171 of 11998
Always Anti-fascist!

wow, really? That's interesting.


DavidS - Aug 18, 2008 9:12:53 pm PDT #1172 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but is she really petty enough to confess deliberately

I thought so. A deliberately malicious act by her sister. Petty and resentful. Or maybe not so petty if she's raising Peggy's daughter, but definitely mean and resentful.

They're getting pretty close to making Betty completely unlikeable. I wonder how they'll deal with that by season's end. Or if they will.


Jessica - Aug 19, 2008 3:10:29 am PDT #1173 of 11998
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

daughter

I thought she'd had a boy for some reason. Huh.

I was impressed that they managed to find a priest who looked exactly like VK for Peggy to bond with.

They're getting pretty close to making Betty completely unlikeable. I wonder how they'll deal with that by season's end. Or if they will.

What I love about this show is that it doesn't make excuses for its characters' present based on their past. We may get an explanation for why Betty is the way she is, but we won't be expected to like her any more for it.


Barb - Aug 19, 2008 3:12:08 am PDT #1174 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

They're getting pretty close to making Betty completely unlikeable. I wonder how they'll deal with that by season's end. Or if they will.

I suspect Betty's headed for a complete crack. I just keep getting the sense that she's hanging on by the merest thread, judging by her reaction to the guy coming on to her in the barn last week.


le nubian - Aug 19, 2008 3:16:15 am PDT #1175 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I keep waiting for Betty to start in with the "mother's little helpers" that the Rolling Stones sang about years ago. Wasn't it around '62?


DavidS - Aug 19, 2008 5:29:01 am PDT #1176 of 11998
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I thought she'd had a boy for some reason. Huh.

Oops - you might be right. That was a little boy the priest pointed at.

Wasn't it around '62?

More like '65-'66. But diet pills and tranqs were already being widely distributed by the early sixties.


Fred Pete - Aug 19, 2008 6:01:28 am PDT #1177 of 11998
Ann, that's a ferret.

Thalidomide was first prescribed in the late '50s. And while it isn't quite the same thing, sociologists had noticed by the mid-'50s that a lot of middle class women were bored with life as homemakers, and would treat with large amounts of alcohol (among other remedies).


Barb - Aug 19, 2008 6:09:32 am PDT #1178 of 11998
“Not dead yet!”

sociologists had noticed by the mid-'50s that a lot of middle class women were bored with life as homemakers

A lot of it had to do, IIRC, with the sense of independence that women had fostered throughout WWII, making up the workforce and having to keep households afloat while the men were overseas. A lot of women who had come of age during that time period had seen possibilities where before there had been none.


sumi - Aug 19, 2008 6:28:45 am PDT #1179 of 11998
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, Peggy's sister confessed to the young priest because she knew that it was him - she just wanted to make things more difficult for Peggy because she thinks Peggy has it too easy.

And Colin Hanks and Vincent Kartheiser resemble each other amazingly well: when I saw the preview last week I thought that they were going to be playing brothers. (Although, we've already met Pete's brother and he's completely different from CH.)


Fred Pete - Aug 19, 2008 6:40:15 am PDT #1180 of 11998
Ann, that's a ferret.

Also increased educational opportunities for women. A woman with a college education isn't going to use most of it in the day-to-day routine of childcare, cleaning, and running errands.

I'm relying heavily on David Reisman's The Lonely Crowd. He talks about doing door-to-door surveys -- middle class women were the most likely to cooperate because they were starved for intelligent conversation with an adult.

On a more personal level (and my upbringing was rural blue collar), I remember a fair number of afternoon gatherings in the neighborhood when I was a kid. A group of women would meet at the home of one. The women would sit in the kitchen or the living room and chat about -- well, I was too young to pay much attention. The kids were turned loose to play, and we were expected not to bother our mothers without good reason.