Could just be a hoax, though. I fake some headaches, everyone gets used to poor helpless Spike. Then one day, no warning, I snap a spine, bend a head back, drain 'em dry. Brilliant.

Spike ,'Potential'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Jesse - Feb 22, 2013 8:01:02 am PST #10509 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The other what?

I do think most people, when confronted with a surprising coming-out, would roll with it fine, even if it took them a minute, so that felt realistic. But he should definitely stay off the internet. I also enjoyed TK calling their date "T-Rex."


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 8:56:14 am PST #10510 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Der--the other team member with lines. I hit Post on more than one last night without bothering to complete the thought process's translation into words. Good going there, ita !.

I don't know when the season ends, but at least they didn't randomly grab some guy out of nowhere and give him the storyline--they used someone the viewers had developed a relationship with already.

eta: I disagree about the rolling with it. I'm still watching people not coping with gay members of my family, from just hearing to years later. And these are people they're supposed to love unconditionally and shit.


Jesse - Feb 22, 2013 9:01:29 am PST #10511 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That was the season finale, I think.

I disagree about the rolling with it. I'm still watching people not coping with gay members of my family, from just hearing to years later. And these are people they're supposed to love unconditionally and shit.

Oh really? Uggghhh, people! I almost opened with "Call me crazy, but I think" and now I see I should have!


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 10:14:51 am PST #10512 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In the past couple of days I've been reading more than one "OMG, people are not that bad" opinion, and I'm thinking--when did they stop? People are totally that bad.

In fact, someone else was talking about coming out, and I'm thinking that not enough gay people can get married and adopt children, etc, so when did coming out become no big deal? If there's enough hate to deny people simple rights that are extended to straight folks, there's enough to make their live socially or professionally uncomfortable too.

eta: for some reason my season pass didn't pick up the start of the season, so my count is off. And the official website isn't really immediately helpful.


Jesse - Feb 22, 2013 11:34:19 am PST #10513 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In fact, someone else was talking about coming out, and I'm thinking that not enough gay people can get married and adopt children, etc, so when did coming out become no big deal? If there's enough hate to deny people simple rights that are extended to straight folks, there's enough to make their live socially or professionally uncomfortable too.

My assumption, which I do think is more and more true, is that even some people who think The Gays shouldn't have those rights are at least pleasant to the person they know/are related to who turns out to be gay. They're still bigoted, but at least polite and/or willing to make exceptions. (I've known racists who were the same way.)


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2013 2:39:34 pm PST #10514 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, for values of "are at least pleasant to" that equate to "are not unpleasant to" in the sense of avoiding the opportunity to be anything at all to them is the main priority. Perhaps not ballsy enough to tell the person to their face that they're an abomination, but perfectly willing to use prejudicial and offensive language when they think it's only straight people around, and often making it effectively clear they're not down with teh ghey in actual encounters.

There are sections of my family that haven't talked to other sections "in case they say something rude". That still makes coming out a big deal, if people who seemed to be friendly to you will no longer attend your events.


Jesse - Feb 22, 2013 4:22:20 pm PST #10515 of 11998
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, absolutely.

ION, I enjoyed how the people on White Collar said "Everybody be cool -- this is a robbery!" I wonder how many real robbers say that now.


Vortex - Feb 26, 2013 5:20:48 pm PST #10516 of 11998
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I thought that the conversation with Boyd and the other guy was really interesting, like the way that he talked about the "boy" who cut his lawn and Boyd as the "boy" who takes out his trash. Given Boyd's past racist leanings, being called a boy is not going to end well.


-t - Feb 26, 2013 6:43:03 pm PST #10517 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Dang, Justified. I'm gonna need a little time before I switch over and watch something else, that was a lot to take in.


-t - Feb 26, 2013 6:50:11 pm PST #10518 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The other guy in that conversation was Browning, right? So, that's pretty much ended and not well for him. And if it was one of the others, things aren't looking great for them either.