Der--the other team member with lines. I hit Post on more than one last night without bothering to complete the thought process's translation into words. Good going there, ita !.

I don't know when the season ends, but at least they didn't randomly grab some guy out of nowhere and give him the storyline--they used someone the viewers had developed a relationship with already.

eta: I disagree about the rolling with it. I'm still watching people not coping with gay members of my family, from just hearing to years later. And these are people they're supposed to love unconditionally and shit.

That was the season finale, I think.

I disagree about the rolling with it. I'm still watching people not coping with gay members of my family, from just hearing to years later. And these are people they're supposed to love unconditionally and shit.

Oh really? Uggghhh, people! I almost opened with "Call me crazy, but I think" and now I see I should have!

In the past couple of days I've been reading more than one "OMG, people are not that bad" opinion, and I'm thinking--when did they stop? People are totally that bad.

In fact, someone else was talking about coming out, and I'm thinking that not enough gay people can get married and adopt children, etc, so when did coming out become no big deal? If there's enough hate to deny people simple rights that are extended to straight folks, there's enough to make their live socially or professionally uncomfortable too.

eta: for some reason my season pass didn't pick up the start of the season, so my count is off. And the official website isn't really immediately helpful.

In fact, someone else was talking about coming out, and I'm thinking that not enough gay people can get married and adopt children, etc, so when did coming out become no big deal? If there's enough hate to deny people simple rights that are extended to straight folks, there's enough to make their live socially or professionally uncomfortable too.

My assumption, which I do think is more and more true, is that even some people who think The Gays shouldn't have those rights are at least pleasant to the person they know/are related to who turns out to be gay. They're still bigoted, but at least polite and/or willing to make exceptions. (I've known racists who were the same way.)

Well, for values of "are at least pleasant to" that equate to "are not unpleasant to" in the sense of avoiding the opportunity to be anything at all to them is the main priority. Perhaps not ballsy enough to tell the person to their face that they're an abomination, but perfectly willing to use prejudicial and offensive language when they think it's only straight people around, and often making it effectively clear they're not down with teh ghey in actual encounters.

There are sections of my family that haven't talked to other sections "in case they say something rude". That still makes coming out a big deal, if people who seemed to be friendly to you will no longer attend your events.

Oh, absolutely.

ION, I enjoyed how the people on White Collar said "Everybody be cool -- this is a robbery!" I wonder how many real robbers say that now.

I thought that the conversation with Boyd and the other guy was really interesting, like the way that he talked about the "boy" who cut his lawn and Boyd as the "boy" who takes out his trash. Given Boyd's past racist leanings, being called a boy is not going to end well.

Dang, Justified. I'm gonna need a little time before I switch over and watch something else, that was a lot to take in.

The other guy in that conversation was Browning, right? So, that's pretty much ended and not well for him. And if it was one of the others, things aren't looking great for them either.

I enjoy that Boyd let them think that he had killed both of the dead guys. And the criminal/outlaw distinction was great.

Also, I can't believe that Arlo is dead. I never thought that would happen.

Also, I love Boyd and Ava.