I mean, Flynn and Pirenza regularly fuck up, and she rides their ass, but doesn't demand of them the same standard she demands of Gabriel.

yeah, they've screwed up, and she has covered for them, like when they found the body in the garage and decided to go to the game instead. But, I think that this was a little more over the top. Or, she might think that she has the chance to shape Gabriel, and they are lost causes. I still love that she called him her favorite.

Re: The Closer:

THEY'RE BACK. and it's awesome. the initial awkwardness was so well done. so adorable and yet excrutiating. You just wanted to scream "forgive each other!" so well done.

Favorite quote: I tried going to AA, but it turns out that you had to stop drinking entirely. That seemed extreme

My favorite quote too.

That little exchange just before they enter the interrogation room? And the smile?

Perfect.

The Closer - as soon as I saw the remains in coffee cans and shoe boxes I knew that they were picking off Medicare patients that no one visited. The manager was creepy though, I don't know if those were the same justifications that he told himself or if he was just making it up on the fly to try and get a lesser sentence. I do love watching Brenda set a trap and the bad guys getting squished.

I haven't watched all of Ruby yet, I'm behind, but I got up to the point where Brenda was watching the tape and Prevenza and him admitting that he told Buzz not to get Brenda and to turn off the tape. Going on only this partial information, (and I did see the end where Gabriel turned in his badge) I think that she expected some of those actions from Flynn and Provenza but not Gabriel, when they talked she hadn't seen the tape and didn't hear how the perp was goading him so this must have seemed really out of left field for her at the time. It also might have seemed like a betrayal for her, because Gabriel's supposed to be the one she trusts not to do stupid shit Flynn and Prevenza, he's supposed to be smarter than that.

And he did screw up their case, I don't think I've seen (or at least I don't remember) the case Vortex referenced, but what Gabriel did totally destroyed their case. Because they didn't get any kind of confession from him and it wouldn't be admissible in court.

Actually I was kind of expecting Brenda to say something to Gabriel about his promise to bring Ruby home, it seemed like such a rookie thing to do and probably gave them too much hope.

Again, my DVR cut off right before the end of the episode. Brenda was walking out the front door, the door slammed behind her, and then what happened?

And he did screw up their case, I don't think I've seen (or at least I don't remember) the case Vortex referenced, but what Gabriel did totally destroyed their case. Because they didn't get any kind of confession from him and it wouldn't be admissible in court.

No, it didn't. It could have, though. They had to find evidence of prior crimes that had nothing to do with what he told Gabriel. They used the evidence that they found with the old car to identify the other two little girls. When Brenda went into the room to talk to him, she was very clear to get on tape that he had been beaten by other inmates and he had gotten medical attention. Gabriel's actions would have come out at trial, but would not have affected the case, since they would have been after him for the other little girls.

Again, my DVR cut off right before the end of the episode. Brenda was walking out the front door, the door slammed behind her, and then what happened?

you mean the front door of the house they were trying to buy? If so, she called her parents and told them that she wanted them to come visit, presumably as a reaction to the old lady putting her house on the market just to have some company. .

Why are y'all whitefonting? I thought this thread was NAFDA.

t- peer pressure. The person who asked whitefonted, so I did too.

Ah, got it. I was worried that the wf rules in my head were wrong and I might do something stupid and avoidable.

Mad Men premieres tomorrow night. There's been nearly unanimous praise out there for this show, so I'm setting my DVR. I've also heard at least one good review of the show with Glenn Close as a litigator, which makes me hopeful. Anyone know anything?