Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow-mop.

Wash ,'Objects In Space'


Cable Drama: Still Waiting for the Cable Guy to Show Up with the Thread Name...

To be determined... (but it's definitely [NAFDA])


Scrappy - Aug 28, 2012 10:05:14 am PDT #10181 of 11998
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Watching Walt rationalize his actions and try to cajole the people around him into doing the same is such a revealing glimpse into his dark subconscious.


le nubian - Aug 28, 2012 10:34:04 am PDT #10182 of 11998
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I watched the pilot last night (my cable sucks y'all. SyFy did not have good digital quality) and it was an interesting transformation of Walt during the pilot. He was kind of weak, frustrated and milquetoast prior to his diagnosis. then after he decided "fuck it, I'm only going to be around for 2 years, let's make some meth", he became a bit of a badass. Fucking up the teenagers picking on his son - of course after he had a hissy fit in front of his car washer boss.

he also was sexually aroused by his new lease on life and his wife commented on it.

I think as a viewer, I am supposed to read that Walt's new attitude is a result of him taking control (as much as he can) of what happens to him and his family. He was painted as quite emasculated at the beginning - he submitted to everyone and didn't have anyone's respect.

He finally felt in control when he effectively dealt with the people trying to rob him and fucked with his son's bullies.

I obviously don't know exactly what will come next but he was a different Walt from the beginning of the ep. You can already see he really likes having control.


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2012 10:37:36 am PDT #10183 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, personally, I was surprised by how dramatic a change we saw in Walt in the pilot alone. I was like, what is there left in his journey?

...oh god i'm sorry i didn't know.


§ ita § - Aug 28, 2012 10:45:32 am PDT #10184 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister's read on Walt's power trip is that he is regarding people as components of a chemistry equation or experiment, and he's Heisenberg, and he manipulates them, and he's going for the 99% assured result.

The way he deals with Jesse is so disgusting--I remember when I was still feeling bad for Walt, that he had this doofus fuckup kid messing with his plans, and then...whoa! I fell for his bullshit. But I was having that sensation as late on in as when they went out to cook in the desert. I was all "ditch him!"

Jesus.

Sis also says that Jesse wasn't supposed to last more than one season, so if this whole thing turns out to be his redemptive arc, that was a shift from the original concept. Which I think is even niftier than a five year game plan, in all honesty, because a course correction like that one, if done deftly is having a good grasp on your story, and responding to whatever works well, for any reason.

(A good retcon is even sweeter...)


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2012 10:49:40 am PDT #10185 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Sis also says that Jesse wasn't supposed to last more than one season

Yep, he was supposed to die, which WHAT.

The way he deals with Jesse is so disgusting

Seriously. Like you, I felt for Walt initially since Jesse was kind of a doofus fuck-up, but at some point, hoo boy, Jesse became competent and Walt switched to hardcore emotional manipulation. There are so many weird layers to his sincerity, though; I honestly don't know how much of what he tells Jesse he believes and how much he says just to get him to do what he wants. Like, I think he probably would trust Jesse to run his own lab at this point not because he's proud of him specifically but because it would mean he had done a good job as a teacher. Then again, he sure was pissed when Jesse cooked blue meth without him.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 28, 2012 10:51:12 am PDT #10186 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Having just finished the first season, the scene that really struck me was when he go the money out of Tuco (after blowing his windows out with the crystal explosive he had), got in his car and had a total bellowing freakout. You could see him suddenly getting off on the adrenalin rush of it all in a way he hadn't really up to that point.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 28, 2012 10:53:41 am PDT #10187 of 11998
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sis also says that Jesse wasn't supposed to last more than one season

Yep, he was supposed to die, which WHAT.

I'm curious when that would have happened. When he got the shit kicked out of him by Tuco? Earlier in some lab accident or when he got into the fight with his buddy?


Polter-Cow - Aug 28, 2012 10:56:14 am PDT #10188 of 11998
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

From Wikipedia:

Originally, Gilligan wanted Jesse to die in a botched drug deal as a plot device to plague the main protagonist Walter White with guilt. However, Gilligan said by the second episode of the season, he was so impressed with Jesse's character and Aaron Paul's performance that "it became pretty clear early on that would be a huge, colossal mistake, to kill off Jesse".

Very good of him to recognize that!


§ ita § - Aug 28, 2012 11:16:08 am PDT #10189 of 11998
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Very good of him to recognize that!

And damned quickly too! I was never expecting him to be not annoying, but suddenly he was breaking my heart--by the time he picked up that chick in the anon group, I think (the first relationship was way too unhealthy and addiction focussed (ironical much?) for me to dig).

I despise whatever high roller ad they run during the show, because that's so clearly Aaron Paul and not Jesse that it's distracting in the middle of the emotional barrage to see him chillaxing with Puff or whoever's even in it.


-t - Aug 28, 2012 11:19:48 am PDT #10190 of 11998
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, god, that ad is so distracting! For ultra premium vodka, I think? Hate.

It was disorienting when Aaron Paul was on Big Love, too. I think the shows aired on the same night sometimes. Just, whoa, so different.