I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


-t - Oct 05, 2013 5:30:23 pm PDT #21458 of 23273
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

PR: these no one gets eliminated results are never satisfying. I am looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with when they have more time, though.


Amy - Oct 05, 2013 6:02:08 pm PDT #21459 of 23273
Because books.

I wish Alexandria had been voted off. I really think it shows a lack of creativity (or boldness? point of view?) when everything is all black. If it's got beautiful detail or fresh shape, that's one thing, but her stuff really doesn't most of the time.

I think Helen should have stuck with her original concept. Maybe the cape needed toning down or something, but the gown alone was really sad.

I thought Bradon's look was the only truly avant garde garment on the runway, but I wish there was some color to it. White reads more moth than butterfly to me, you know?


-t - Oct 05, 2013 6:13:20 pm PDT #21460 of 23273
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hm, I don't remember Helene's original concept. The dress she ended up with was pretty enough, but way more red carpet than avant garde.

I agree, Bradon's was the only actual avant garde. I didn't mind the white since he was evoking the movement of butterflies with the bobbing of the thingies more than referencing actual butterflies. And it was just gorgeous. Probably would have been gorgeous in color, too, but it's not like it looked bridal or washed out.

I did think Justin's dress was really beautiful and unusual. I generally don't get Alexandria; even the things the judges point out as particularly good, I can't see it. Her reworked plaid pants were pretty cute. I never did figure out where that 3rd print was in Dom's "avant garde" look, but her reworked piece was awfully good.


Jesse - Oct 05, 2013 7:24:40 pm PDT #21461 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really think it shows a lack of creativity (or boldness? point of view?) when everything is all black.

Also, lack of understanding how the program works.


Amy - Oct 05, 2013 7:32:28 pm PDT #21462 of 23273
Because books.

I couldn't figure out Dom's third print either! Maybe the jacket was lined?

Also, lack of understanding how the program works.

The thing is, I love a black anything. I buy a lot of black. But it just looks crappy on camera. Even from the judges' seats it can be hard to "see" or so they've said.

I guess I just always expect much bolder choices from aspiring designers. When you look at what some of them do compared to McQueen or other really high fashion designers, the contestants start to look like pageant-dress makers to me.


le nubian - Oct 05, 2013 9:11:06 pm PDT #21463 of 23273
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

TLo thought Dom's should have won by a mile. Which I thought was a really interesting perspective. They didn't think that any of them were avant garde at all.

I thought Helen's was terrible. I thought she and Justin should have been cut based on those garments. I don't like Alexandria at all so I would have been fine with a final 2 with Bradon and Dom.


Jessica - Oct 06, 2013 4:06:03 am PDT #21464 of 23273
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I really think it shows a lack of creativity (or boldness? point of view?) when everything is all black.

*looks down at own clothes* Oh well.

Alexandria's problem is that she seems so obsessed with making things "cool" that her designs always come across a little desperate. Though I actually did love her avant garde look. (Growing up goth-ish in the age of grunge...how could I not?)


Amy - Oct 06, 2013 4:08:12 am PDT #21465 of 23273
Because books.

I meant as a designer, Jess, not as a consumer. Like I said, my wardrobe is more than 50% black, too.


Jesse - Oct 06, 2013 8:45:47 am PDT #21466 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The thing is, I love a black anything. I buy a lot of black. But it just looks crappy on camera. Even from the judges' seats it can be hard to "see" or so they've said.

Seriously -- all black everything is great! But not on the PR stage.


Theodosia - Oct 06, 2013 1:51:33 pm PDT #21467 of 23273
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Oooh! I forgot that TAR is on tonight!!!