Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Non-Fiction TV: I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own

This thread is for non-fiction TV, including but not limited to reality television (So You Think You Can Dance, Top Chef: Masters, Project Runway), documentaries (The History Channel, The Discovery Channel), and sundry (Expedition Africa, Mythbusters), et al. [NAFDA]


quester - Aug 23, 2012 3:41:51 pm PDT #19761 of 23273
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Annnnnd.... I forgot all about voting! I didn't remember it until I was at work this morning.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:09:09 pm PDT #19762 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Was that a reference to this number ?

Probably, except Cyrus was just pushing the broom around. Due to, you know, not being able to dance like Gene Kelly.


kat perez - Aug 23, 2012 4:13:52 pm PDT #19763 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

So Gene Kelly did dance with a mop and a broom in Thousands Cheer. You can see it here. And Tasty was trying to do a Gene Kelly tribute, so there's that. As for why it had to be Cyrus instead of say Big Pasty 2, well, everyone is a little bit racist, no? And I do think this show often displays a little bit of racism or at the very least white privilege in the way they talk about hip hop as a genre and "untrained, street dancers" most of whom just happen to be black. Tasty could've had someone else do the broom part or just not referenced it at all as Gene Kelly has had a ton of far more iconic dances. I still don't think he was trying to be racist. He was more likely thinking about what the hell he was going to do with a dancer who technically could not hang with the other kids in the number so better to give him a prop and have him walk around a lot rather than Cedric him and sit him down somewhere upstage. Of course, he could've had Cyrus walk around with an umbrella instead a la Singin' in the Rain Gene. And now we're right back to a little bit racist.

The bigger shame to me is that the choreographers continue to not push Cyrus in any way. Even Cedric didn't start getting Cedric'ed until he had shown for a couple of weeks that he just could not pick up choreography. Cyrus has been thrown softballs from the jump and this week was just the latest attempt by the group dance choreographers to figure out how to make him not dance in the group dance. The only one who really didn't do it was Christopher Scott and he is primarily a hip hop choreographer and therefore accustomed to working with "non-trained" dancers and helping them to pick up intricate choreography and learn to dance in an ensemble (which is probably not at all familiar for most hip hop kids). Sigh. It's depressing.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:15:46 pm PDT #19764 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I still don't think he was trying to be racist. He was more likely thinking about what the hell he was going to do with a dancer who technically could not hang with the other kids in the number so better to give him a prop and have him walk around a lot rather than Cedric him and sit him down somewhere upstage.

Absolutely. But just take a minute and think about your decisions and what they may look like, you know?

And also the rest of what you said.


kat perez - Aug 23, 2012 4:16:36 pm PDT #19765 of 23273
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Yes, but it's Tasty. My expectations are not that high.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:19:54 pm PDT #19766 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm just over it. And I was riding so high on the calling out of Nice White Lady racism on Political Animals last week!


Jesse - Aug 23, 2012 4:22:09 pm PDT #19767 of 23273
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, good fucking times on BB. Mike Boogie is a dick, but at least he knows how ridiculous the whole thing is.


Amy - Aug 23, 2012 4:47:11 pm PDT #19768 of 23273
Because books.

Project Runway -- or actually Ven specifically -- is making me furious tonight. How can he not know that the majority of women are NOT shaped like a runway model?


Vortex - Aug 23, 2012 4:50:18 pm PDT #19769 of 23273
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Because he's an asshole. This always happens when there are non-size 2 models. Some designers spend all of their time shitting on their client. Ven took it a step further by making her feel bad about it and constantly harping on how accessories were too small, etc. He knows what her waist size is, he could have measured beforehand and found some accessories that worked with her body. Or here's an idea, you're a fucking designer, DESIGN SOMETHING.


Amy - Aug 23, 2012 5:01:09 pm PDT #19770 of 23273
Because books.

Or here's an idea, you're a fucking designer, DESIGN SOMETHING.

Right? I mean, I never thought he had much personality before, even if he had talent, and now I just want him to go home.

Why do these people think all the wealthy clients they want to have are going to be size 2, also? Because they're not, either.