And they let people go back and claim stuff we see them "throw out."

Unless something is really horrid and then they do toss it out. But I think that's mostly for clothes that are damaged.

I'm mixed about What Not to Wear. I don't think they do too well with people who aren't exactly mainstream, but a lot of the women who go through the process really do seem to have a boost in confidence and self image.

There are people who don't. I remember one woman, I think she said Fuck about every sentence (there was a lot of bleeping) and she was really reluctant to go on the show. She just sort of picked things that went with the rules. She'd been bleaching her hair and the show darkened to her normal color and she hated it. They actually took her blonde again after the reveal but before the party.

But then there are other women, like the young woman from Utah who'd gained 20 lbs or so since getting married and she wore the same clothes that were falling apart. Her pants legs were held together by safety pins. She broke down the first day because she was so unhappy and things didn't fit.

Stacy and Clinton made a point of telling her - the problem was the clothes, it wasn't her. There's nothing wrong with her if her clothes didn't fit, she just needed to find different clothes. She looked a lot happier at the end of the make over process.

But then I think, "they'd probably try to make over Jilli!" not that Jilli would be on the show but if someone were trying for a Jilli look they'd make them over to mainstream.

I had never watched it, but I just watched the streaming episodes of What Not To Wear from the website. I am not very impressed with the clothes people (too much pop psychology, and they pick the same style clothes for everyone), but that hair guy is wonderful. Three for three, all the women loved their hair - it felt like them, but better. He should have his own show.

(too much pop psychology, and they pick the same style clothes for everyone)

This. THIS. I would love to see a show that focuses on helping people find their personal style, instead of dressing them in whatever is in fashion that looks marginally okay on them.

You haven't really seen the show until you've seen someone have a breakdown about their hair. The last episode before this that I watched, the woman had a fit that her hair was colored a little darker. She was so invested in being a "blonde bomshell."

I had never watched it, but I just watched the streaming episodes of What Not To Wear from the website. I am not very impressed with the clothes people (too much pop psychology, and they pick the same style clothes for everyone), but that hair guy is wonderful. Three for three, all the women loved their hair - it felt like them, but better. He should have his own show.

Which hair person was it?

Black guy, wore a lot of purple, shirt and tie. Super-sweet. He was a little addicted to the flat iron, but the women he ironed were the kind who would make the effort.

They all really seemed to like the blonde makeup woman, too, although she was a little too fakey-sweet empowering for my tastes.

I like the new hair guy better than Nick the old hair guy.

Nick was okay but the episodes I've seen with the new guy he seemed to really put them at ease.

But since I've been watching there are all kinds of women who cry over their hair, usually they don't want it cut. But I don't get the emotional attachment to hair at all.

I like the new hair guy better too. He seems to understand that there are options other than "we must go short".

Is Carmendy (sp?) still doing the make-up? She's a little too enamored with lip gloss for my taste.

Anyone watching Breaking Pointe?

Do you think Allyson is just getting the "bitch edit" or that she really is that way?