Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jun 04, 2007 1:12:44 pm PDT #997 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Because you might change your mind? What's the rationale behind making that official?

It can be a way to have a no-fault divorce (instead of one person saying the other did X wrong which can be done without waiting is my impression).


bon bon - Jun 04, 2007 1:14:33 pm PDT #998 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I should correct a misapprehension-- I don't mean to imply that in states requiring separation, the separation is required in all circumstances. In New York the only way to get a no-fault divorce is by living separate and apart for one year. Otherwise you need cruelty, abandonment, imprisonment or adultery.


Scrappy - Jun 04, 2007 1:16:14 pm PDT #999 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, to get a no fault divorce in Massachusetts, we filed and then it went into effect a year later. I think it's to make sure neither party is being coerced, since you lose a lot of rights (like the right to SS benefits or to property) once a marriage is officially severed.


askye - Jun 04, 2007 1:17:31 pm PDT #1000 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

North Carolina has the 1 year rule. My brother and his ex wife had to be legally separated for 1 year, which meant jumping through all these hoops and filling out paperwork.

I think the idea was to try and save marriages, but all it did was keep them from getting on with their lives like they wanted to do.


§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 1:17:53 pm PDT #1001 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's the technical definition of separated here? Does it apply both before and after divorce has been filed for?


Trudy Booth - Jun 04, 2007 1:19:03 pm PDT #1002 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

wikipedia and no-fault divorce: [link]

basically, its a commie innovation


askye - Jun 04, 2007 1:20:14 pm PDT #1003 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

In my brother's case he and his wife had to live apart, file some paperwork (I think) and maybe a few other things BEFORE they could even file for divorce.

The actual process of filling out and filing the paperwork and getting the divorce was fairly quick (considering he was living in another country).


bon bon - Jun 04, 2007 1:22:27 pm PDT #1004 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I have what may be an anarchist bent, and would love to think that adults know when they're done.

Some states like it one way, and states like California don't require separation. You can choose where you live and where you marry. Such is the supposed benefit of the federalist system. After awhile all legislative policy starts looking like moralizing. And for myself I think on the macropolitical level it is preferable to encourage marriage, even though I don't think divorce laws do that.


§ ita § - Jun 04, 2007 1:28:25 pm PDT #1005 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can choose where you live and where you marry.

If I marry in one state but live somewhere else, and then divorce in a third state, is there a consistent way to determine what law applies where?

(now I'm off reading Wikipedia on legal fiction--if only any of this information would be useful or retained)


brenda m - Jun 04, 2007 1:32:35 pm PDT #1006 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Grrr. Who sends jobs to the communal printer requiring 8.5 by 12 paper, thereby blocking the whole print queue until they remember to go and fucking load their mutant paper?